So you want him to only play 28 min a game? Also you want him to be the 13 point scorer he was before JVG instead of the 25 and 10 guy he is now? Honestly, with the type of people on this board, I almost wish he and Tmac would get traded somewhere they wont be so hated.
Gater has already pointed out the facts, but nobody seems interested in listening. You can be a fast break team without your center getting out and leading the break or filling the wings. Kareem and Walton both fueled great running teams with outlet passes. Being a fast break team doesn't mean that you exclusively score on fast breaks...that's just not possible for a team to accomplish. Yao and McGrady simply can't score all of the points, they need other players to contribute some points. The problem in the Utah series (and in many other games) is that nobody else really contributed. If we can get some easy hoops for our guards and SF via the fast breaks, then that's additional points that we aren't getting today. The truth is that we've had to work way too hard for all of our scores. We rely on Yao and Tracy to beat double and triple teams. That's just too tough to do on a consistent basis, we need the other guys to contribute some too. If they can get some easy baskets running the ball, then great. Even if Yao isn't out ahead of the break, he will be there for the times that we don't have the numbers advantage and have to set up the half court offense. If you ever watched the Showtime Lakers run a break, Magic would push the ball with Scott and Worthy on the wings. If they had the advantage then they took the easy score. If not, then they waited for Kareem (who usually took his time getting down the floor) and then ran their half court offense through Kareem. The only way that Yao isn't going to be involved in the offense is if we have an advantage on the break on every possesion. I guess that would effect Yao's contribution, but that would be a problem that every team in the NBA would love to have...too many fast break points. Trust me, even if we run, we'll have many more half court possesions than fast break possessions. If we can get out an run and have a numbers advantage and get some easy hoops, then great. If not, we've still got 2 of the best half court players in the league to fall back on. Anything that helps the other guys contribute is a positive.
Good post ae. I still think there's a problem with the roster that must be addressed before we get any further. Besides the outlet passes, you have to have multiple guys who can handle the ball, make decisions, and finish at the basket. Our lineup is really flawed in all of these areas -- outside TMac and Rafer (and Spanoulis!!!!!!!), no one can handle the ball. In terms of decision makers, it's really TMac, Rafer, and Battier. In terms of finishers, this may be an area where Snyder can excel, but guys like Alston and Head have proven really lacking in this area.
Nike, No doubt there are issues to address, I wasn't intending to suggest otherwise. I was simply addressing the idea that a team with Yao can't also run.
Fair enough -- I was more addressing why stuff like that didn't occur more with this current roster. Though, I'm sure GATER will scream till high noon that Van Gundy had a heavy role in that.
OK...I'll bite. But only because you and "ae" put some semblance of sanity back in here. I'll ask one and only one question. On the foundation that the faster the tempo, the more TO's (Jason Kidd as exemplary)...and we know VG abhors TO's....if given an option between acquiring OR playing a "safe" (ie, consistent) player or the option of acquring OR playing a player who takes risks but turns the ball over...which way does VG lean? This is by no means an endorsement for any current Rocket...but like Bob Dylan said....you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.
You guys that think Yao's effective would not be reduced in a faster tempo offense are dreaming. The question is would our team be better with less emphasis on Yao. Maybe so; maybe not. Also, Adelman doesn't coach like D'Antoni or Nellie. Thankfully, our 1/2 court offense will be a lot different but I don't think the Rockets will run a lot more unless our personnel is upgraded. JVG liked the Rockets to run but we had only 2 guys capable of leading the break.
What part of early transition offense are you struggling with? If the Rockets score and he never has to cross mid-court...his effectiveness is reduced? Please explain that one 'cause I see a gappingly huge inconstency in your logic. Acquiring the talent to do this is a mutually exclusive condition and totally independent of whether Yao is effective in an uptempo game. Don't confuse these issues. Stick to refuting why easy transition baskets make Yao less efficient.
The biggest myth about Yao is that JVG made him what he is now. This is simply ludicrous. With this reasoning, if Rudy T kept coaching, would Yao be a 13pt, 8 rebound player now? Heck no, if anything with a diverse offense and iso plays he may have been even better utilitized. Also I don't remember Rudy T making Yao chase guards on pick and rolls, therefore tiring him out even more unnecessarily. So what do I think will happen when Adelman arrives? We'll see a more polished, refined, confident, stronger version of the versatile rookie version of Yao. This could possibly have some serious MVP and championship implications. I'm eagerly awaiting the Adelman era, when Yao mania will really arrive!
I hope you're being sarcastic. Because that's just plain ignorant. Look at all the big men over the last 10 years who have averaged over at least 24 ppg. You will see most of them are not scrubs. Given enough shots any player can score 25, so you're saying if we gave J-Tsak 25 the same shots as Yao he would average at least the same amount of points.
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So you think he has peaked already? Barring his performance after the last injury, did you see that he has been improving every year? So you don't think he is a dominant center? Did you watch the Rockets games before his last injury? I see you have been relentlessly bashing Yao lately. I didn't spend the time to count but I think at least half of your posts are about Yao and 0% of them is positive. Yes he didn't play well in the playoff, and so was the whole team. The fact that you have been targeting on one single player shows your true color.
What is even more unusual about this play is that Shaq didn't dunk the ball at the end but instead he lay the ball in softly.
guyz just cuz we got a new coach doesnt mean Yaos gonna be running up and down and running this fast tempo game. Our offense may become more up-tempo but dont exaggerate it. Were not gonna be no phoenix suns or the warriors. We'll probably see a lot of the same plays from the other seasons because thats just our team.
Exactly. Everyone keeps bringing up Kareem as a key component of a fastbreaking team. Look, the day we get Magic, Worthy, and Byron Scott I'll gladly concede that we should be breaking every play with Yao playing the half court. Too bad we're stuck with Chuck, Rafer, and Deke.
The biggest myth about Adelman's Kings was they were a fast breakign team. They ran some, for sure, but they were more Utah Jazz than PHX Suns of this year. Halfcourt execution, precise cuts, and sharp passing were their calling card, not relentless running. Remember, the centers for those teams were a chain-smoking Vlade Divac, not Amare Stoudamire.
