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The biggest Myth about Yao Ming.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by trugoy, May 19, 2007.

  1. SamFisher

    SamFisher Member

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    Yes he did, I've seen the highlights,and I remember it. He did it at UCLA, he did it at Milwaukee, and he did in LA far more than Yao ever has. He also happened to be one of the most durable, well condiditioned players ever who never had major injuries untill after 13 or 14 seasons. In fact I think he might be the overall leader in minutes played.

    You're also missing the larger point - even if Yao's tired ass is too lazy to run, higher pace means more work on defense. His stamina is sh-t. I have never seen an all star grabbng their shorts, doubled over in exhaustion as much as him. And he is injury prone. Meanwhile he is at hs best in the halfcourt, undisputedly.
     
  2. MadMax

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    exactly. he was dominant in the low post in a halfcourt set before the knee injury. why would you change that? hopefully scooter computer and mr. chips won't change that. but if the owner keeps saying he wants them to be "phoenix-like" because he thinks it makes them more marketable, that's not exactly helping in my view.
     
  3. Texas Stoke

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    LOL at comparing Yao To Kareem.

    When we are talking about Stamina, Endurance, Mobility, Yao is in a class all by his lonesome.

    Kareem never had to be taken out down the stretch of tight ball games because he just couldn't hack it any longer.

    And we want to run an umptempo style? Nice dream, but it will be a nigthmare
    for Yao Ming.
     
  4. Yetti

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    Yao Ming, after his recuperation will be able to play in 6mins spurts and the last minute of each qtr. With reduced playing time he can become effective in short bursts. When you think of Yao and speed try and think of how he was before JVG changed his game.
     
  5. SamFisher

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    You have drilled down to the heart of the matter. Les misses the forest because he sees a pretty tree.

    I don't think he understands that just plugging in Adelman, what he'll get is going to necessarily be phoenix like.

    Given the mismatcched personnel, what he'll ge may be more 1995-1997 Golden State Warriors like:

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/GSW/1996.html

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/GSW/1997.html
     
  6. blazer_ben

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    JVG built our team around yao. if you people believe Adelman will turn yao into a bill walton or a Sabonis you're kidding you'reselves. if anything with the Gundy departure, the player who will be most effected is gonna be yao. gundy built the offense to revolve around yao. if adelman comes, you will see alot more crisp movements off the ball and less interior post play. meaning our primeter players are gonna be the biggest winners.
     
  7. A_3PO

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    Maybe his rookie year. I guarantee you Kareem wasn't that light during his peak and later years. At 7'2 or 7'3 he wouldn't have lasted in the NBA at 225 lbs. This link from NBA.com has him at 267 lbs, which sounds about right. http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php/Kareem_Abdul-Jabbar. He was lean and mean but he wasn't a toothpick.
     
  8. SamFisher

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    I thought he was bigger earlier and got skinnier later to save wear and tear on his joints, he certainly looked skinny in the short shorts.
     
  9. A_3PO

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    Maybe JVG built too much of our offense around Yao, and when teams decided to take him out of the game, the Rockets came unglued. But this could have been because of our lack of talent. If Adelman is able to speed up our 1/2 court passing, have more people cut to the rim for easy baskets, I'll take it. But unless Chuck and Rafer are gone (or put on the bench), I won't hold my breath.
     
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    Newsflash: The starting Center of Sac Kings in their prime was Vlade Divac.

    Newsflash again: Divac was not more athletic than Yao, he was not faster than Yao.

    Yao won't be responsible for finishing the fastbreak, doing crossovers, running and gunning, and shooting the 3pt, even Adlman is the coach of the Rox. I don't know what the heck are you guys thinking.
     
  11. Nick

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    We didn't look that unglued in the 32 games without him... till towards the end when Deke started wearing down.
     
  12. SamFisher

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    Newsflash you're hideously wrong on both counts.

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    Tell me that Yao could have made the very first play in this rather lame HL video.
     
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    Zone can save Yao lots of energy and increase his rebounds.
     
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    To be honest with you,Hayes wont be back. Adelman likes he's bigs to be able to shoot. conversly i believe someone like juwan will fit that mold alot better. the rockets will try to trade hayes. adelman has allways tried to model he's offense around the bigs that can pass and shoot. sorry chucky, but you're probaly done in houston.
     
  15. GATER

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    I give...I have been bludgeoned into submission by an overwhelming lack of foresight.

    Let's just continue to pound the ball into Yao as he's doubled in the low block. We haven't needed any easy transition baskets to take us to the heights we've already attained.

    Adios....
     
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    kidding right?. Divac was more atheletic and was faster. he was alot better shooter and passer.
     
  17. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    You are 100% correct Gater, they will come around next year when the truth comes out.

    There will be apologies a plenty...

    :D

    DD
     
  18. A_3PO

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    The problem is Juwan can't shoot either, so hopefully neither guy is back. You couldn't get a gallon of milk for Hayes in a trade. He's an RFA so maybe they let him walk or give him the league minimum.
     
  19. blazer_ben

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    You think Adelman is somehow will pull a hudini act and turn yao into a Prime Bill Walton. in time people will see JVG's Departure as a step back for yao. JVG tried to build this team revolving around yao. every possesion on offense start with it being pounded into the big fella... under Adelman, that will not be the case...
     
  20. blazer_ben

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    Probaly right. Remember that juwan had that purple patch where we were playing quicker and smaller ball. thats the kind of offense we'll see with Adelman. it will suit juwan. i'm not saying he'll be great, but he does have the skill set to be ok under Adelman.
     

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