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The best shot is the one not taken (for Rafer, anyway)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Drexlerfan22, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. kkev125

    kkev125 Member

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    I don't want Cook shoot any 3s. In your situation, put Landry or Scola in. Our PF spot is more than set, Cook is just a filler. What Morey said about Lowry is true, but Cook? Really? Don't buy into that.
     
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    Cause they know he can't control the temptation to shoot the shot, AND they know they can't play him tight. Skip will make them look stupid (see Vujacic). Brooks may become a greater player, but he's definitely not rated higher above Skip in other team's eyes at this moment. I like this trade, but it's because the team needs someone who can drive legitimately.
     
  3. Drexlerfan22

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    How many times do I have to repeat this?

    I said Cook is good insurance. As in, if Landry or Scola goes down. Obviously you play those two guys before you ever play Cook.

    Secondly, why in god's name would you NOT want Cook to shoot 3s? He's a 40% career 3-pt shooter. And I don't mean 2 for 5 in the span of a season, either. He takes a lot of them when he plays.
     
  4. jondoe

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    Great thread. I don't know why so much people are enamored by Rafer's lack of skill. They say he "runs the offense" No he doesnt. He passes it to Yao or to tmac. There is no quarterback like chris paul in Adleman's system. Its ball movement. And I am sick and tired of Rafer calling Yao out to run a pick and roll for him. I am tired of his heat checks. And I am especially tired of his clanging tear drops. Lowry takes it in like a mini Kobe. If anything, the trade is sideways, not a downgrade. I truly believe it is an upgrade though. We will see. All i know is that I cant wait to hear Orlando fans start complaining about Rafers bricks. They gave us Tmac, we give them Skip. HAHA.
     
  5. angrykitty

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    Really. Seems I recall a lot of "trade Rafer for a bag of chips" posts. Now, after saying for years that he sucks and has no value, people wonder why we didn't get more 'value" in return for the trade?
     
  6. the_hustler

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    Great thread..

    thanks a lot for the insights.. I had no idea abt our new PG..
     
  7. CVcrew

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    I don't hear anyone mentioning that Rafer had his own troubles. He was pretty "out-spoken". IMO I think that they were looking for guys who want to play. More play and less talk. With TMac out for the year you are basically left with one guy on the team who is a locker room cancer. Everyone else would "appear" to be character guys.

    Rafer had his run ins with the law and can't say that that was something that impressed Les. He also talked, ALOT! Not saying that was a bad thing but I think from a chemistry perspective that this will be addition simply by the subtraction of TMac and Rafer.

    You now have guys who just want to play. You now have young guys. I think this team is certainly going to score more points. Guys will be more involved instead of looking or waiting for offense to come from an injured TMac. Guys like Brooks and Wafer will now be more involved and have more shot attempts. I think Adelman will look to his team to push the ball more also with Brooks, Wafer, Landry, Lowry, Scola (doesnt mind running) and even Ron was running the floor the other night. Also everyone has mentioned Lowry gets to the rack much more often Rafer did. That in itself is a plus when you have a center like Yao.

    I feel better about this trade than I did before being able to read up on Lowry and still feel that ALOT of Rafer getting shipped out had to do with locker room stuff rather than "upgrading" the PG spot.
     
  8. Drexlerfan22

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    Good point(s).

    Anyone else remember when Bibby was racking up the assists in his Grizzlies days? And when he got traded to Sacto, people said "he's gonna lead the league in assists!"

    Uh, no. He went from 8.4 apg to 5.0.

    Why? Because in Adelman's system, everyone's a passer. Everyone moves. There is no such thing prototypical point guard/quarterback in this system.

    I'm all but positive that Rafer will be (at least a little) more productive in Orlando than he was here. But that doesn't mean we should've kept him.
     
  9. thacabbage

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    Brooks has to be on the court for us to beat good teams. It's as simple as that.

    It's best to atleast get some cheap young talent for Alston if the plan is to hand the team over to Brooks.

    Good trade.
     
  10. arthur2010

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    very nice analysis, bravo!!!
     
  11. AKRocketsFan

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    I love this trade. Lowry is a sleeper and a perfect fit for this team. He will have a positive game changing effect on offense and defensive. Are backcourt is finally younger, stronger, faster. Did I mention I love this trade. :D
     
  12. jkckwong

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    Great post.

    The PG position has been a problem area. Rox got to do something about it - sooner is better than later.

    Brooks (much younger) has more potential to improve than Alston. You can't teach old dogs new tricks and that's why we have been seeing disgusting bad shot selections from Alston in the past 4-5 years.

    Brooks now will have much more PT to improve his game. Kyle, the back-up PG, is also young and according to scouting reports, has the potential for improvement. Two young and atheltic point guards playing 48 minutes would exhaust opponent team's star point guards like CP, DW and this is one advantage that the Rox acheived through this trade.
     
  13. tonyrock

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    NOW no one can pass properly to YAO and Scola as Rafer did. we got 2 short PG, and don't have lots of experience as a starting PG.WE wanna them organize the team and pass the ball and know all the habits of their teamates. we wanna them to defend higher PG? let's see......but not mention the champion ,never ,ever ,again
     
  14. AKRocketsFan

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    My point exactly Lowry has X factors, Strength, speed, and the ability to get the hole draw contact and finish. Rafer does nothing bad nor great except for being very inconsistent and rarely leaves a mark on the game even when he' s played well.
    Your point has to impose his will whether it be playmaking, scoring or defensively brooks and lowry both have will imposing aspects to their game. Rafer did not have any and it showed especially at the end of games.
     
  15. RedIsen

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    From what I can tell of your poorly constructed post, you think nobody on the roster is capable of a post entry pass.
     
  16. jkckwong

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    If I remembered correctly, Chris Paul is 6' tall. Of course, we have to give time for Brooks and Kyle to improve their games. Looking at Wafer's improvement, I am sure both our young PGs also have that potential.
     
  17. Shaud

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    smh @ people not knowing what he meant by saying Cook is insurance.
     
  18. Drexlerfan22

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    Let's see. Rafer is 6'2, and Lowry is 6'0.5

    Oh no! We got so much shorter! It's like going from Magic Johnson to Muggsy Bogues!
     
  19. Blake

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    just posting to keep this thread up top
     

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