3 Team Trade Houston trades Shane Battier (Utah) Carl Landry (Utah) Brian Cook (Utah) Houston gets Mark Blount Michael Beasley Kyrylo Fesenko Utah trades Carlos Boozer (Miami) Kyrylo Fesenko (Houston) Utah gets Shane Battier Carl Landry Brian Cook Miami trades Mark Blount (Houston) Michael Beasley (Houston) Miami gets Carlos Boozer Blount would be stop gap starting center until Andersen is ready to overtake him. 7ft tall and can hit mid range shot. Beasley could play behind Scola in Landry's spot. Future star! Kyrylo Fesenko would be a project 7fter who could develop and help down the road.
You act like Shane is 39 years old. He is only 1 year older than Scola and TMac, and 3 months younger than Kobe, and 2 years younger than Duncan. He also played this last season basically on 1 foot and would probably beat Rudy Fernandez in a 1 on 1 game.
This is quite possibly one of the worst trade proposals I have ever seen on this board. We should not trade Battier unless we get a top star back. You are suggesting trading two of the smartest players and best players in terms of price-performance ratio for a bunch of junk. This whole thread:
Rockets aren't trading Battier unless they get something great in return "Battier has value, but the belief is once Houston trades him they will start to fall apart as a team as he is the primary glue guy that has made it all work to this point, his leadership especially with so many young guys is highly valued in Houston. He's not untouchable, but he'd have to return a quality upgrade for Houston to consider it." -Via Hoopsworld
I can imagine it now... If we trade Battier and struggle: "See, it's all because we traded Battier. It has nothing whatsoever to do with Yao's injury, or the fact that we lost two important players in Artest and Wafer." If we keep Battier and struggle: "Hey, it's not Battier's fault at all. Are you kidding? Yao injured, no Artest or Wafer, what did you expect? Battier is still the winner-est winner in the whole entire league."
Lol, you should see some of the twisted logic that people use to justify Battier's important to those old Memphis Grizzlies teams. They love to point out that when he left, the Grizzlies starting sucking. But when you mention that the Grizzlies have never won a playoff game in their entire history, they absolve Battier of any responsibility. It's quite comical. Their arguments are so circular that the room starts spinning.
Alright folks, obviously many of you are tired of pointless speculation, but hey...what else do you have to do at work today? Clearly as little as I did between my classes today if you are reading I've constructed a 4-team trade between Houston, Portland, GoldenState, and Utah (yea...sorry the j*zz). So here we go: Houston receives: K. Fresenko (from utah) R. Fernandez (from portland) Portland receives: S. Battier (from htown) S. Jackson (from GS) Golden State receives: C. Boozer (from utah) J. Bayless (from portland) The j*zz receive: A. Biedrins (from GS) T. Outlaw (from portland) Making our line up: PG: Brooks/Lowry SG: Fernadez/Budinger/T-Mac SF: Ariza/White/Budinger PF: Scola/Landry/Hayes C: Anderson/Fresenko/Yao Alrighty, before you tear this apart, because I doubt a single proposal has made it through the opinionated gauntlet that is ClutchfanForums without being reamed, so here me out... Houston: -- Houston cuts about $4M in this, gets a solid cheap 7footer in Fresenko, and Rudy fills a glaring hole at SG. This still leaves Dorsey just sort of there. If/When Yao returns, we can readjust the PF/C chart to look something more like.... PF: Scola/Anderson C: Yao/Fresenko/Anderson ...giving us Landry and Hayes both up for trade. You can really rework Landry/Scola/Hayes/Dorsey however you would like, just an idea. Portland: They accomplish a few things in this. As I see it Portland is in win now mode and could seriously benefit from some veteran experience. Before you argue S. Jackson is a nut case and Outlaw would be more reliable, realize that when teams reach a point when they feel they are in contention for a title, they will take on head cases. See Marbury to Celtics, AI to Detroit, and Artest to Houston. Secondly, Portland is in a funny position. They have a huge position jam at the PG/SG slot. After this trade is done, they'd be left with ... PG - Blake/Miller SG - Roy/Webster So far so good? Golden State I've read a little bit between the GS and Utah forums and some combination of Boozer for Biedrins keeps popping up on both sides. So, running with that idea...GS washes their hands of Stephen Jackson and looks towards a future with Boozer. The addition of Bayless makes Speedy and Acie Law expendable. They also shed about $4M in the trade j*zz They add youth with potential. An upgrade at C with Biedrins coming in and Fresenko on his way out. On top of that, Boozer walks and they pick up Outlaw as a younger replacement. Phew... Ok so. Does it work? Trade Machine says so (for however much that is worth) The Hollinger Analysis: Houston: No Affect Portland: +2 Wins GS: -4 Wins Utah: +3 Wins Thoughts? Opinions? Please, lets hear 'em
Hell no! We get totally jipped with that trade while everyone else makes out like bandits. What's wrong wit you?!?!
All that for possibly no effect on the team while the Jazz could possibly win 3 more games? PASS..............
Dude, it is a computer generated response. I didn't email Hollinger and get his personal 2 cents. Take it with a grain of salt.
what would people here think of a battier for rondo based deal? boston was shopping rondo right after the season ended, and they have been rumored to be seeking someone who could play James Posey's role from their championship team. Battier's a good perimeter who can knock down open shots, just like Posey, so there might actually be a market for him in Boston. The Celtics were also shopping Rondo for far less than what his perceived value had been around the league.
No. First of all, Rondo is a PG where we have AB and Lowry, overall people seem to be fairly happy with that set up. The addition of Rondo, while talented, doesn't answer our glaring issue at SG/C. Oh, and you just made the Celtics that much better. No way.
The Celtics are that much better by picking up a defensive role player to bring off their bench??? Meanwhile they'd be giving up a point guard capable of giving you a triple double on any given night, and in his place starting Eddie House? Brooks is a shoot first point guard and could actually play along side Rondo pretty effectively. Rondo has the length, athleticism, and strength to match up with most of the 2 guards in the league. Actually, he would probably be a very frustrating match up for them.
Yeah, I thought about posting something like this, but then I figured, why bother? Rondo is an absolute stud. I'd kill to have him here, but there just isn't really a trade scenario that would work for both teams.
All the players that the Rockets would possibly trade Battier for would not be available for Battier, or do you want to trade away Scola/Landry/Brooks, etc...too. Last time I checked, Isiah and Steve Kerr were not the GM so destroying the team probably is not gonna happen. The only two players on the current roster the Rockets should be actively shopping are McGrady and Cook. They could also be looking at Von Wafer S&T possibilities... Other than that, unless a true impact player is coming back, which is unlikely, just stand pat and come back in 2010 as an actual contender.
