The ball should have been in Francis' hands the last minute!!!!!

ROCKETBOOSTER:

although the question was not addressed to me, may i please chime in?

my guess is that rudy believes (correctly) that moochie is our best ball handler. in the 4th quarter, the defensive screws get tightened. especially against the pg. some say that steve can handle it as a pg. you know what? they'd be right. he can handle it. but that is not the issue.

the issue, IMO, is whether steve makes a more dangerous 2 guard in the spot than 1 guard. the answer, IMO, is yes. he's a dead eye shooter, but a VERY high-difficulty-level dribbler. so i'd rather see the ball swung to him (aka atlanta) than to see him creating in last, crucial moments.

walt was in the game for his shooting, and he was doing a decent job of that. even the j's he missed looked very good.

 

I really wish you would stop accusing me of being someone else. I don't chat during games. I tried it once, and I didn't like it. I like to watch the games, and talk about them afterwards, or in commercials. Whatever similarities I might have to "Turn", are coincidence.

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ZRB, like the similarities in IP numbers.

ROCKETSBOOSTER...damn I wish Hakeem was in there. That's all I can really say. I thought Moochie was having a stellar time of it, and it forced the mismatch on Mobley. I don't think Rudy plans stuff like that, and I really can't argue with anyone who says Shandon should be in there. It is just not my nature to have those arguments. Rudy made a call that never would have been made if Dream is in there, and Marion got us with a hip shot against Mobley. Mo's 4 fouls hurt us, too.

next game.

 

What is an IP number?

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An Internet Protocol address.

Most communication across the Internet takes place using IP (as opposed to other networking protocols like IPX, NetBeui, etc.). In order for IP to work successfully, each computer connected to the Internet must have a unique IP address. Without a unique IP address, it would be impossible to determine what machine should be sent a particular packet of data.

Does that help, ZRB?

 

HP,

I don't know why you defend Mobley so much, do you not see any fault in the guy at all?

You are starting to remind me of The_Cat and his defense of Mo, even when Mo plays badly.

Mobley is both good and bad, the problem is that he shoots FAR to much and would be more effective if he used his teamates to help him.

Now, you may say that this is what Rudy is telling him to do, and that is a fair point, but if you take it into the lane, get triple teamed and still shoot, that is HORRID decision making.

Mobley needs a good dose of smarts, as he thinks he is a GREAT player, when in reality he is a good one.

I would trade him in a heartbeat for a TALLER player with similar skills, like a Jamison or an Odom.

I think both of those players would compliment our best player...Steve Francis.

DaDakota

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Verse,

So your saying Moochie should run the point guard position, especially in the fourth, so Francis can slide over to the 2 guard. And you believe it's to our advantage that Moochie, instead of Francis, brings the ball across mid-court even though it will transfer directley to Mobley or Francis once acroos mid-court.? Okay, this important, or too me, absurd task that Moochie brings to the table must be put forth without sitting Walt Williams, who is our most respectable feeder off the iso's. So naturally, Walt must slide over to the power foward spot replacing Kenny Thomas, a decent rebounder and interior defender, or Carlos, or even Cato, all for the sake of having another point guard bringing the ball across mid-court in order to set up Mobley, never Francis, for an isolation.

If this is indeed a fact, Rudy needs to trade Franics right now, and find a point guard who can be trusted with the ball in the fourth. Because I'll tell you one thing, right now, and if you have half of a brain you'll agree with me. This Houston Rockets team will not accomplish jack **** by having Walt williams playing at the power foward positon for entire fourth quarters.

Now, I begininng to see. Rudy, in the fourth has utter faith in confidence in Mobley's scoring ability but a complete lack of confidence in Steve Francis ball control. How much harder of a slap in the face can Francis recieve?


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Yeah, you know what, that is true. With Hakeem in the equation we were not forced into these situations. But i'd like to see Rudy have faith more in Mobley and Francis with just Walt as a feeder off isoaltions instead of Moochie, too. It's just too risky defensively having three capable power forwards sitting on the pine all for the sake of a more cautioned or secured offense.


I'll say no more about this, though.



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DaDakota,

Why do others defend Francis so much, do they not see any fault in the guy at all?

They are starting to remind me of The Cat and his defense of Mo, even when Mo plays badly.

Francis is both good and bad, the problem is that he turns the ball over FAR too much and would be more effective if he did not try to be a one-on-one player like Mobley.

Now, you may say that this is what Rudy is telling him to do, and that is a fair point, but if you take it into the lane, and get stripped, that his HORRID decision-making. At least Mobley gets the finger roll floater off.

Francis needs a good dose of weakside play in the 4th, as he thinks he is a Superstar, when in reality he isnt' even the best dribbler or one-on-one player on his own team.

Heypartner

ps: I don't defend Mobley, read my response to EB42 in your thread. Mobley is GREAT, and I truly believe Francis will never get better shots off than Mobley. How am I defending him then? I don't dis players for missing good shots, except Walt. I guess that makes me a "defender". Well then I defend all the Rockets. If you think Mobley attacked triple coverage on that last shot and didn't have a clear shot, I realize then why you think I'm a defender. That was a great shot with awesome rebounding position by Mo...I have the tape. You want the step by step call?

 

That thing you and Turn have in common. Surpriiiiise!

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Head on over to the hangout forum.

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I did.

For those interested, and those in chat, the drama is over.

ZRB Is Out-ed:

http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/Forum7/HTML/003212.html

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Hey Vince. Way out of line. Yeah. Dont diss Heypartner just because your stupid. Also, theres already a thread about this.

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Way to fall for a bluff, ZRB/Turn. LOL.

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Now that this big "secret" is out lets get back to the discussion.

Bottom Line- If you have two clutch go-to players to use in the 4th, use BOTH of them. The Rockets are fortunate enough to have both of these guys to go with late unlike a lot of other teams. No matter how hot one of them gets, the D is eventually going to make them miss, so they need to alternate.

Take a look and see how many of the great teams have a true go-to guy in the 4th. And no the Bulls did not, b/c Pippen didn't do crap for them in the 4th. You could argue that the Lakers do, but everytime Shaq gets the ball in the 4th he gets hacked, and he cannot shoot free throws. With 2 go-to guys, the Rockets shouldn't be allowing these comebacks late if we used both of them.

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A) It wasn't selfishness
b) Francis should have had the ball
c) where is hakeem when ya need him....this game shows we needed a better defensive center thant he one we gots..... and walt should not hav ebeen there... anderson would have been better.... walt is crap as sin.

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HP,

I concur that Francis is FAR from a finished product, but he is LIGHT years better then Mobley.

I don't like Mobley's style of play, as it does not include the entire team, if and when it does, I will come around.

DaDakota

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Forget this cold vs hot lame argument. Francis did not have the mismatch that Mobley had.

Fact is, Francis was not going to get off a better shot than those two that Mobley got off. No way. And on a 3rd possession Mobley had a clear illegal D when he was at the top of the key that ruined another possession.

Francis has never got off a better shot in the last second than Mobley's down the middle finger roll. Finger roll layup by Mobley through the heart of the D, and you cry "give it to Francis", he can do better. Pathetic argument.

 

"Why don't you use your name, cause it's probably some whinny name. But it can't be gayer than hey partner!"

And there is NOTHING, repeat NOTHING worse that a gay name.

There is no insult that hits harder than calling someone gay.

heypartner, your reputation has been indelibly smeared by these accusations of homosexuality.

If I were ever accused of homosexuality, I'd leave cc.net immediately, with my tail between my legs, and hope and pray that word never got back to my Real Life friends and family.

My Real Life friends and family would surely ostracize me if my heterosexuality were ever called into question.

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