The only draft measure was put forward by Democrats, so I don't think they expect people to be scared of the GOP about it. Neither Kerry nor Edwards has said if you vote for Bush you might be drafted. However Cheney did say that if people voted for Kerry terrorists would strike us again.
This is what BOTH parties do. The GOP tries to tell us that if Kerry was elected, we'd be more vulnerable to another terrorist attack. The dems tell us if Bush is re-elected, our kids will be drafted. In politics, perception is ALWAYS reality. I'd argue that, in our society, perception is ALWAYS reality. It is easier to sell things to a public that is confused, scared or angry. It makes for a ****ty living environment, but it is politically and economically ideal. Happy, content people don't demand accountibility and look at things with skepticism.
Why won't the liberals say "links to terror" instead of links to "al Queda"? Hmmm.... maybe because Saddam WAS in fact linked to terror, as the evidence clearly points out. Edwards and Kerry have done this in the debates, attempting to fool the less astute public. They always claim there is no connection between Saddam and al Queda, but what they conveniently leave out is the strong connection between Saddam and terror. This is a global war on Terror, not simply a global war on al Queda. Nice try liberals. Second, the question was never "does Saddam have WMD" as you imply. The question was "can we trust Saddam at his word that he has no WMD". With a record of 12 years of obstruction and countless UN resolutions ignored, the answer was clearly no. Saddam's actions were not trustworthy, and his noncompliance made it reckless and irresponsible not to act. The very fact that we have to 'look' for WMD means that Saddam did not account for everything we asked him to. Simple as that.... and just what else did that report that you cite state? Funny how you exclude the part that doesn't support your point. CONQUISTADOR
So...um....the military needs more folk, so Bush has a secret plan to reinstate the draft -- it's the only solution and he's going to spring it on you after the election. Yet....Kerry says he's going to increase the size of the military...but he won't reinstate the draft? Because...i guess he doesn't need to since increasing the size of the military without a draft wont be a problem?? I guess if the hook works, you run with it. Ain't politics grand!
You mean "links to Tehr-rah". We don't talk about terror, because terror doesn't exist. It's a feeling, an emotion. Now terrorists, those are real. Real human beings like, say, Osama bin Laden? Yeah, that guy that Bush won't talk about.
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Observable facts about recuritment, retention and need make the draft denials non credible. Many believe that there will be a draft for the same reasons that they believe that interest rates will go up or we have inflation due to the drastic increase in the deficit due to excessive spending vs revenues. If Bush were to announce that he intends another round of deficit reduction while cutting taxes and not spending his words are contradicted by measurable facts. Bush says he will stay the course in Iraq. If it take 10 years or more. The same neocon crowd threatens to invade Iran or saber rattles about doing so. Army recruitment is down, many of those in are eager to get out. If we stay the course the volunteer army won't hold. It doesn't matter what Bush says about the draft if he doesn't change the course and people do believe him when he says he will keep fighting. See the Hackworth article above, about the broken promises to the current miitary volunteers and how the word is spreading in the communities they traditionally enlist from. Public observations about troop levels, retention a make Bush's denials not believable.
what about Kerry's pledge to increase the size of the military?? Are they not credible either? Or has he a secret draft plan too?
What a clever rejoinder. Next time, you can just use the rolleyes and save yourself the trouble of cutting-and-pasting.
John Kerry says he wants to increase troop levels in Iraq....then bring them all home in 6 months. How is he going to do that? Does he have a 'secret draft' plan too? EDIT: Damn, bnb beat me to it.
He plans to bring the international community back to the table, lead the world rather than snubbing it, and force NATO and the UN to see that a stable Iraq is in their best interest. Once more countries commit troops, we will have increased troop strength without having to commit more of OUR already overextended troops. BTW, Kerry said that if everything went perfectly, he could see drawing down troop strength in 6 months, but made it perfectly clear that he will set no timelines, instead relying on the data from the troops in the field to determine when it would be prudent to begin extracting our troops.
You're talking to the wrong person. Bama is a former Marine NCO, who served in Somalia. He's laid more on the line for this country than the vast majority of us here could say. I've had enough exchanges with him to believe that it's not made up. I also agree with him that there will not be a draft, and that it would be a stupid idea. We disagree on a host of other issues, but not on this one. I completely oppose it, unless we're engaged in a severe conflict with another, powerful nation-state, and just needed bodies to fill slots. The military doesn't want a draft. We have a superb professional military that is the envy of the world. It just needs to get bigger, for obvious reasons. Kerry proposes to increase the size of the Army by 2 divisions... 40,000 troops. He would pay for it, in part, by doing away with the taxcuts for Americans making over $200,000 a year. If that isn't enough money, he'll spend it anyway to enlarge the military. He'll double the size of the Special Forces. There is no need for, and will not be, a draft. Book it. And... Keep D&D Civil!!
Great post Deck. i agree entirely. and it's good to see you standing up for 'bama even though you rarely agree with him in this forum ......not that he needs anyone to stand up for him!
