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The Athletic: Bruno Fernando Will Start Over Sengun When He Returns

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Sengun, Nov 11, 2022.

  1. cmoak1982

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    I’m not misunderstanding anything. Green and Alp function extremely well together. That is what’s important.
    The only reason anyone says Alp needs to be “the guy” from the bench is because of the way Silas is using him.
    The only player that plays like “the guy” is KPJ, he’s a selfish inefficient player, with the way Silas is using him.
    KPJ can be a solid player if he was used to his strengths.
     
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    Everyone could be traded for the right price.
     
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    It’s the reason Sabonis has been traded, bc he’s a tough fit. Gotta surround him with so many specific pieces. It’s both sides of the ball and it’s challenging. I like him running the 2nd unit imo. Most coaches aren’t gonna wanna feature him, so our next hire has to be someone that wants to if we’re gonna keep Sengun long term
     
  4. cmoak1982

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    Listen dummy. I can beat you over the head with stats and it still wouldn’t stick.

    Bruno was -15 as a starter against the Hawks. The only starter that was negative. So we can use single game stats all you want. Bottom line is on the year, Alp has the only positive BPM for players that have big minutes.
     
  5. cmoak1982

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    Sabonis can’t roll like Alp. They have some similarities but not the exact same. Alp is closer to Pau than Sabonis.
    Green-our best player-endorses using Alp more.

    That should be all that matters
     
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    This is why he fell to 16, teams didn’t want to take a guy like him that high. Stone obviously loved him and want to swing for the fences, which is why it’s gonna be interesting now this all shakes out
     
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    No, they don't. Green and the rest of the starters want to play a fast, athletic, above the rim style of basketball taking advantage of defenses that are not set, Sengun wants to play a slow, plodding half court type of game.

    Will Green sometimes sit back and let Sengun take over and play his way? Sure, but it's to the detriment of Green and the rest of the starters because that's not playing to their strengths, only to Sengun's.

    What it comes down to is do you entirely cater to Sengun at the expense of the rest of the starters, or do you set up a situation to play to everyone's strengths?
     
  8. aaquaa

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    You guys are making the same mistake most fans of small market teams do: You expect a miracle man to descend from the heavens to take you to the top. Sometimes you bind all your hopes to a young man whom you haven't even seen play!
    Bruno is not the answer. He isn't even that good! He may be a starter for the worst teams in the NBA, but that's it!
    Deep down you know this but still you hail him as if it's The Second Coming, as you did others before him.
    WAKE UP!
    Players that do what Bruno does are a dime a dozen.
    He doesn't fit. He's just... that much, that's all. Nothing more.
     
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    The team has problems ofcourse. But the narrative of Alperen Sengun being somehow ousted by Silas, KPJ & anyone else is ridiculous lol. The team plays better when the pace is fast. A rim runner helps this. Having post moves with no defense whatsoever doesn't help us win games. Sengun didn't work on his defense at ALL this offseason
     
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    Wrong I've shown play types of that 2019 Dallas team a thousand times.

    We have failed to provide Silas that Screener/Roll Man that Silas used in Dallas.

    Sengun did not play vs Hawks.....Rockets 41 FTA's ( Win )
    Booker talked trash to Green, so Green was allowed to cook.....Rockets 43 FT's ( win )

    Removing Sengun allows for greater freedom and fluidity.
     
  11. cmoak1982

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    Yes they do.

    There’s nothing stopping players from running. That’s a fallacy. Good transition defense stops that. Then it becomes a half court game. This is the same thing that happens every playoffs.
    If the offense has multiple ways to score, whether it’s run n gun, half court, movement, PNR. This is a good thing
     
  12. cmoak1982

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    Wrong.

    Remind me again of what that team did? 7th seed?
    Alp gives more flexibility to the offense. Not a simple PNR and 5 out offense full of on shooters.
    The best teams in the league, use multiple looks and movement. Teams are moving away from small ball in general. It can’t be all or nothing
     
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    Exactly, I've never been a fan of Embiid, Jokic, KAT.

    Defenses are too smart nowadays. The playoff teams don't fear their
    3 to 4 three point attempts per game. Sag off of them to pack the paint.
     
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    Sengun is the least athletic player on the roster, he simply can't play the style of basketball that the rest of the starters want to play. So you get a tug of war between a slow half court game that benefits Sengun and a quicker more athletic style that benefits everyone else.....and the two clash quite often.

    In some matchups, Sengun dominates, and you'd want to go with his style. In others, Sengun is an anchor around the neck of the team. The last two games are examples of those kinds of bad matchups.

    Going with Bruno starting plays to the strengths of guys who want to play the quicker more athletic style with a rim running big man to keep defenses honest. Sengun can't do that, so defenses get away with cheating and that screws things up unless they give up on that style and simp.ly go to Sengun every single play like it's the 90's and you have Olajuwon on the court.

    If Sengun had a 3 point shot, he could get away with the way he tries to play a lot more, but defenses don't respect his shot.....and they shouldn't, so they cheat there too
     
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    Lol. The same argument extends to Sengun nutgrabbers. Sengun isn't a miracle man or any key to this teams success. Giving him ball more won't make us better. When the team clicks best is when we're playing fast & open. Bruno allows this Sengun doesn't. Also the fact Sengun can't shoot hurts spacing. I know you've convinced yourself he's a star but he's not sir. He's a poor man's Luis Scola, without a shot. Bruno fits better
     
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    Personally I haven't seen much development from any of the youngsters. (And I think it's mostly on the coaches.)
    Run&Gun only gets you so far. Ask MDA. H3ll, ask Don Nelson!
    This young team that's so fond of being Energizer rabbits will be crushed in the slow, grinding half-court pace of the playoffs.

    I believe both parties will benefit from parting ways before this story gets ugly.
    Hopefully The Rockets will have their PG & C and Sengun will end up in a playoff team.
     
  17. cmoak1982

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    Literally none of this is correct.
     
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    You're right. I believe Sengun will eventually find a role on a NBA team, but the Rockets need spacing and he doesn't give us that.
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL, you're deadass trying to argue that Sengun can be an above the rim, lob threat center that defenses respect? LOL GTFOH.

    He's not a rim runner, he's the least athletic player on the entire roster, he doesn't have a 3 point shot. All of those are reasons why the rest of the starrers can't play the style of basketball they want to when he's on the court. Defenses can cheat off of him when he's not in the post because they have no reason to respect him. That kills spacing and eliminates driving lanes.

    With Bruno, he's athletic enough to where if defenses cheat to cut off driving lanes, Bruno gets to the rim and it's a lob. Sengun can't be that guy so he's just a big slow body in the way helping defenses clog lanes.

    If he could shoot the 3, that would be the remedy, but he can't.
     
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    But where in h3ll does Sengun figure in my postaaaagghh yes. You're right. Want a cookie? Some sugar to wake those gray cells up? Both of them?
    I am not saying Sengun is the answer. I am aware of his shortcomings.
    Just this: Bruno isn't it either. In fact, you will be worse off with him. You're only exaggerating his talents because Sengun is not an easy fit.

    Sengun will always sell tickets and Sengun will always sell merchandise. Sengun will sell game streams.
    Sadly, if only for this reason, I fear he will not be leaving anytime soon.
     
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