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The Astros just plain suck

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by DaDakota, Jul 8, 2004.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Do you guys think the team has given up on Jimy like they did on Dierker?

    DD
     
  2. Nick

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    When did they give up on Dierker? The 2001 playoffs? They may have never liked playing for him, but they sure didn't stop trying.... they probably played some of the best baseball in the entire Dierker era, in the second half of 2001, his final year.

    From what I can see, the only players on this team that would have a problem with Jimy are the starting pitchers, and that's just the ones who don't have enough confidence in their stuff in the first place. (Miller and Redding)

    There's not much complaint from the position players because they're all proffesionals, and will do their job to the fullest of abilities. Also, after Dierker, any manager who actually knew baseball strategy was a welcome sight for the elders in that clubhouse.

    Whether its due to age (Ausmus, Kent, Bagwell) or just not much talent to begin with (Everett, Viz), Jimy has failed to get anything close to the level he got out of this club the last two years...
     
  3. Davidoff

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    The Cubs think they have a curse?? COME PLAY FOR THE ASTROS!!!
     
  4. DavidS

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    I wonder if many of the Astro players have been thinking ahead to the All-Star game and not concentrating on winning.

    I hope we get a second wind....post-all-star.
     
  5. Hey Now!

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    if 4 playoff appearences in 6 years leads to nowhere, where in h-e-double hockey sticks was this franchise during its first 34 years of existence, when they made all of 2 postseason appearences?

    i think biggio and bagwell deserve a little more credit than that.
     
  6. Dreamshake

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    NEWSFLASH!!!!!

    The Astros SUCK!!!!!



    I dont hate the Stro's, they just plain ol suck right now. Even ****ty hitting should be ok with solid pitching...which across the board we dont have outside of Roger. But this is just pathetic.


    Ive been a Stro's fan for many many years. Since my first game watching Jose Cruz in the Dome waaaaaaay back Ive always had a huge soft spot for my loveable losers.


    But there is NO reason this team should suck this bad.


    Hurt Bags....so what.



    All teams have injuries to deal with. There is still waaaaaaay to much talent on this team to be a .500 club. At this rate they wont even be that once its all said and done.


    Its time to make a change. Dump Williams. I had my reserves about him when we hired him, ever since we dumped Dierker, we have been a mediocre team with exceptional talent. I dont know at this point if its Williams or the lack of heart on this team (IS anyone allowed to celebrate on this team-DAMN!...Game winning 9th inning homeruns should be celebrated a tad more then a slap on the back), but Something needs to be done. And it starts with the boss.














    DAMN they lost again today....heartless bastards are killing me.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    Ric,

    They made the playoffs, but they certainly do not get it done any longer.

    Time to go a different direction.

    I would like the see some of the younger guys get some more playing time.

    Let's see what Lane can do with some steady play.

    I think watching Hidalgo go crazy in NY is a telling sign...he just seems to care more.

    I think the players have lost confidence in Jimy, they don't understand what the heck he is thinking.....

    Jimy MUST go.

    DD
     
  8. rezdawg

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    Im so pissed that they have basically put me in a bad mood over the last few weeks. Ive gotten to the point where i cant even focus on my studies because im so sick and tired of the way they are playing.

    F the astros.
     
  9. Nick

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    I'm right there with you Rez... I'm starting to dislike anything to do with the game of baseball, thanks to this team. Also, food tastes worse, women look less hot, and everything just flat-out sucks when your team is in a brutal tailspin.

    The sad thing is, it would be easy to just say "Hey... its just not their year," but every time they go out there, they have HOF'ers (Clemens) or young studs (Oswalt, Beltran, Lidge) performing great, and you start to get excited again about this team.

    This road trip, however, was just too much. I officially put no more expectations on this team anymore... if they start winning, more power to them; if they continue to lose, its nothing but expected.
     
  10. bigboymumu

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    IMO, Hunsicker and Drayton do not get enough of the blame! I do not give them credit for Roger and Andy. Roger and Andy fell in Gerry's lap. How do you go into this season without addressing our most obvious needs? I mean, this is an all or none season right? Pitching, defense, and speed wins championships. Whitey Herzog used to say the two most important things in baseball is a sense of humor and relief pitching. I guess Hunsicker agrees with the humor part because this team is a joke. (way too many holes) I already know what is going to happen. We are going to fall out of contention and then we will start playing better. NO BALLS STROS!

    I enjoy watching the Pirates, Red Sox, and Marlins play. Those teams enjoy playing with each other. THIS TEAM IS TOUGH TO WATCH.

    Fire Jimy
    Fire Hunsicker
    Do not resign Biggio
    Start over
    And most importantly, someone buy this team from that snake oil salesman!

    3-2-1. The click to the rescue!!!! ;)
     
  11. codell

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    bigboymumu,

    Hunsicker pulled off 3 major acquisitions, that addressed your "speed, pitching and defense" and you want him fired???

    Unbelievable. :confused:
     
  12. bigboymumu

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    plop :)
     
  14. bobrek

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    Biggio has been their most consistent offensive performer all year. The Astros hold an option for next year at, I believe, 3 million. A leadoff man that hits .300 with 20 HRs and 100+ runs scored is certainly worth that. His OBP when leading off an inning is around .440 with an average of around .380. Those are outstanding numbers.
     
  15. bigboymumu

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    Hunsicker has stated on numerous occasions that this is going to be this current core of players' last chance. If that is the case, we need to make room for players like Lane, Tavares... Players that will be around in 5 years. I wouldn't mind having Biggio around to guide the young players but it would have to be as a utility player/pinch hitter.
     
  16. Hey Now!

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    perhaps not, but they did lead the team to places slightly better than nowhere.

    don't get me wrong - i'm firmly in the "do what you have to, bagwell and biggio be damned, to build this team around beltran" camp; in fact, i may be camp president.

    but it won't diminish what bags and bidge have done in their tenurehere in houston.
     
  17. Rocket River

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    so the Killer Bs got another coach RUN


    Rocket River
     
  18. MadMax

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    they liked jimy.
     
  19. codell

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    I think he meant by their play.

    In that case ........so did Everett, Ausmus, Ensberg, Kent, the bullpen and half the starting rotation.

    Surely hes not singling out Bidge and Bags.
     
  20. MadMax

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    oh, no. surely not. :rolleyes:

    yeah...bidge is killing us out there.
     

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