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The Art of Finding a Scapegoat

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Hayesfan, Nov 11, 2010.

  1. Bigmarky

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    shane=worthless
    scola=too small too slow cant play real D
    brooks=SG not PG
    martin=a good SG on a team like the celtics with help Defn
    yao=tmac part 2.

    game over.
     
  2. HillBoy

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    Rockets' fans have been picking scapegoats for the past 15 years so why should they stop now? They are experts at blaming everyone but the folks running the organization and the owner who are the persons responsible so again, why should they stop now?

    Preview of Coming Attractions: Another Holy Crusade/Witch Hunt against (yet) another Rockets' head coach led by DaDakota.
     
  3. da_juice

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    I compltely agree, it seems that alot of fans on this board don't seem to understand that when you take a team that played fastbreak small ball and add an immobile 7'6" giant in the middle who needs touches. It takes time for everyone to adjust. Brooks has to adjust from being the main scorer to the 2nd/3rd option or the distributor. Adelman needs to figure out rotations with Yao's time restraints, plus the development of Hill and the addition of Brad Miller. It takes time for things to gel, luckily this is the NBA and not the NFL, we still have about 90% of the season left to play. This can work if given the proper time.
     
  4. thetatomatis

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    Is this where all of the wrong people with hurt feelings come to defend the players they want in the lineup each night? Just looking. :grin:
     
  5. Hayesfan

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    I'm upset too... and yes maybe it is whining about the whiners... but I said upfront it was venting.

    The problem is that the GARM turns to crap rather than turning to discussion when we lose... and I get annoyed. ;)
     
  6. thetatomatis

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    We understand. Your venting about the discussions over your favorite players. Its alright for clutchfans to go into attack mode on people who are discussing your favs. Your fans of these players. Vent all you want guys. Gonna discuss what went wrong with others.
     
  7. makman

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    That's what training camp and the preseason are for. Should be easier with more size, Brooks should flourish not being the main option, Hill isn't playing much to develop. This isn't about a team gelling this is about a team not playing D, not giving enough effort, and not showing up in the 4th.
     
  8. makman

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    Again how is Les responsible when all he's doing is funding the project?
     
  9. BucMan55

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    I agree with HF on this one though. It is highly annoying to see people picking out one of the laundry list of things that HF posted and delusionally thinking that ONE item is the reason they lost. Sorry, the Rockets didn't lose to the Wizards because of one little thing. Daryl Morey said it best, guys missed shots, couldn't grab a rebound, and consistency wasn't there.

    How about a different scapegoat:

    Karma.


    For all of those celebrating Aaron's injury! :p
     
  10. Carl Herrera

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    Aaron Haters: It's on YOU!
     
  11. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I totally get it and a lot of people have left because of that.....it has turned significantly into peanut gallery central.

    DD
     
  12. makman

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    Can't fault people for caring.
     
  13. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Nope, that is a good thing, but can fault them for typing....

    ;)

    DD
     
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    0-3. There is no problem, nothing needs to be fixed or replaced.

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    1-6. There is no problem, nothing needs to be fixed or replaced.

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    ??-??. Not to worry, the Rockets can still turn it around. There's no need to fix or replace anything.
     
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    Thanks for making my day! :grin:
     
  16. Kim

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    It's hard not to react when you lose to the Wizards, whose only win prior to the Rockets came on a miracle desperation 3pter at the buzzer at home vs the 76ers. The Wizards lacked interior presence and prior to the Rockets game, were like 30th in rebounding percentage. The Rockets just got destroyed down the stretch by one of the worst teams in the NBA. This is a big problem, considering the expectations.
     
  17. Hayesfan

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    Agreed... but the general reaction of the people here is to place the blame on one person rather than the whole team.

    Every one of them has something they could have done more to help the team win.. I agree that losing to the Wizards is pathetic - I've been watching a bunch of their preseason and regular season games because of John - so you don't have to convince me something needs to change.

    My assertion is that people should stop trying to find a scapegoat for all our problems. Instead give me a good discussion about the porous defense, the lack of boxing out, the shot selection or something other than "Tall people play basketball better than short."
     
  18. Kwame

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    When certain players are playing like crap and contributing to losing more than others, the intellectually honest thing to do is call them out on it. If we listened to some people on this website, the Rockets could go 0-41 and they would still say that there's no need to worry.
     
  19. heypartner

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    haha Hayesfan,

    I described this very same mentality to in a thread earlier this morning, should have waited for you thread.

    The way I like to describe this is to describe how I feel as a fan. I don't watch games and think who lost the game for us. I don't really get mad at a single player; I just walk away hating the result.

    I just don't look to scapegoat; I just don't feel that. I truly do not feel that emotion/urge. This is not to say I am a better fan, at all.

    The best I can say is I don't have that scapegoat gene because I DO NOT want the coaches, GM or players to immediately feel the need to blame after a loss. That is hugely destructive, exactly as you described, Hayesfan. So, if I don't want the team to feel the need to blame, I'm not going to feel it either. I just don't feel it.

    Besides, at the end of the day, sports is entertainment. I want to concentrate on the positives, things that are fun to watch. And I love basketball so much, no matter how much my team sucks, I'm going to find something in the game to enjoy. I wasn't a season-ticketholder through the good days and some bad SF, CM, MN years for nothing.

    That reminds me of a story about my mom. My comment: Sports is entertainment so don't hate on it, may cause arguments around here. But if someone is a season ticketholder to the Ballet, I think we'd all agree that that person is watching entertainment and will not hate on it. not true.

    I went to Swan Lake with my mom every time it came to town. It is her favorite. Ben Stevenson, our director during the Lin Cunxin/Janie Parker era, my mom loved. Then we got a new one and he changed the ending of Swan Lake. She was furious leaving the theatre. "How could he do that. You can't change that!!! I want Ben back." FIRE WALSH!!!

    haha, she essentially wanted to fire the coach of a ballet team.
     
  20. mvpcrossxover

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    does the refs count as the scaptegoats? i blame them for every loss :p
     

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