/sigh i guess only the ones who voted understood, maybe read the replies would help? Take Ariza as a Lakers player. He was a good good defender but not known for his offense. If he brings the SAME thing, would you be happy with him as a MLE player or whatever it is. If he doesnt enhance his offense, are you ok with it or did you have higher standards?????
I couldnt agree with those four points more. I think he will be a very adaptable to different lineups and bring intensity every night. And at 24 I see a bright future.
So the poll is asking if I'm ok with this signing even if Ariza doesn't improve? I guess my answer there is no. But I also expect him to improve, on both ends, so in actuality I like the signing.
I think this is what people need to understand. He's going to be a ronnie brewer/tayshaun prince type of guy. He will play with energy,slash,defend,get in transition, and he's 24. Dave78 you keep bringing up Battier 2.0, but he's a upgrade on a uptick and will make him tradeable. Just as Mason jr and now Jefferson is a upgrade to bowen,its about getting a cresting player to replace a declining one. Lets not try to make a mle contract out to be the worse thing in the world. Mle contracts can be traded in most gm's sleep because that's 25% +/- of basically 5m. That's why u see Ranman getting traded without a blink. Tim thomas,salmons, swift, all those are easy contracts to move or match. 5.5m for a guy of his ability is fair, very fair.
lol if that was the poll question then I answered incorrectly. I will not be happy if Ariza doesn't improve.. that's what we're banking on.
i dont think ariza's 3 point shooting was a fluke. the guy was basically automatic whenever he took a 3 point shot. he has great form when he spots up and shoots.
I'd like to answer your poll with another poll: The Joesr skillset pole: 1) ChingChong 2) DingDang 3) WallaWallaPufu
i absolutely agree, albeit STANDSTILL SPOT-UP 3pt shooter. i think his skillset warranted the signing: good spot up shooter, pretty good defender, run the break, athletic, can penetrate off double teams pretty good, wants to improve, and only 24. it's very unrealistic to expect ariza to be anything better than a very good role player. he just doesn't possess that "it" type of skills that a star player would show, even before he became a star. ariza just doesn't have those skills, point blank. so if rocket fans think you're going to see ariza draw double teams, kick out, penetrate, create off the dribble, put the pipe down. however, at the age of 24, hes going to stick around until morey gets a star on this team (or if tracy or yao gets healthy). and when the star comes, he's going to be an exciting player. he's already one of the league's best role players, and he's going to get better. i'm sure a lot of rocket fans LOVE shane, ariza is gonna do even MORE (if your expectations are realistic).
If Battier is traded in order to bring in a real Center or a real scorer at the wing position then the Ariza deal will make more sense. However, all I have heard is that Battier (and to a lesser degree Scola) are the leaders of this team so I'm not sure if Shane is going anywhere. So as it stands right now it is a bad deal. If other moves are made I may change my opinion but right now the Rockets have around $13 million invested in two spot up shooting, non-ball handling, defensive minded SF while this team has a couple of big holes at other positions. Ariza's age is irrelevant right now. This team is not in rebuilding mode until Yao is traded so the fact that Shane will start declining in the next few years doesn't matter. He'll still be able to produce at least as long as Yao does.
The problem is that no one can predict if Yao will be to produce anything of significance if he can make a comeback. I'm of the opinion this is a complete waste of time. Yao and Tracy can't get us anywhere,the sooner Les and DM realize this,the sooner we can re-build.
I agree with you but I don't think the organization does. I think McGrady has shown his colors and they are not those of a winner. Yao, regardless of how great a guy he is, cannot not lead a team to a Championship even at 100%. I think the team still has enough pieces and enough talent to rebuild on the fly but I don't think that is the plan. Sadly, I think this team is going to plod along and be "almost contenders" for a few more years before Yao calls it a career and the organization is forced to rebuild from the bottom up.
An Ariza who scores around 12, 15 ppg consistently with a nice percentage is better than "I-think-I-can-handle-this-tight-situation-but-I-most-likely-can't" Ron Artest. The thing Ron Artest has that Ariza hasn't shown completely is great passion for the game.
Dave78, what is morey suppose to say? Have u heard adelman say it? Have u noticed adelman is trying to upgrade his spot? I know that adelman would rather have battier on the bench. He finally have a guy that fits his mold of a wing in a kersey-like guy. He's not the natural ballhandler of christie who was like a point forward type nor a screen shooter like peja. He has his kersey with better defense and that a pretty good player.
What? Ariza's salary still counts to the Salary Cap. Sure the Disabled players exception allowed us to sign one more player (ie. Ariza) but we didn't get a free signing. Morey still has to manage the finances of this team... epsecially moreso now that we have an extra player than we expected.
Dave78 , kersey and ariza as far as game are the same. I think you have watched enough basketball to know that. Yes Kersey was a smaller thicker guy, but he was a slasher,finisher, transition, spot up shooter type. Ariza is a better defender, but other than that, they're the same guy. Go watch the old blazers with the screen curls and the transition game off steals,blks, and rebounds and that what Ariza can do. If you don't belive or buy that, then I guess we will have to wait till the season to see.
