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The Answer is: TMAC

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Lonestar, Jan 6, 2008.

  1. rofflesaurus

    rofflesaurus Member

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    i think we need to get rid of the t-mac iso/pick n roll play completely. ok maybe not completely but only use it 10% of the time. we need t-mac to catch the ball after someone creates.
     
  2. Alvin Choo

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    Tmac is not a ball hog, and he is more than willing passer of the ball.

    But the others kept wishing Tmac will be in superman mode, hence less ball movement and off the ball cuts which the rox is doing alot of time. They be standing around and looking at Tmac to do something.

    It works well with JVG system as that is what they are suppose to do, Tmac take the ball, and create something out of nothing, but for the current system, its the case of too much is dependent on Tmac.

    Tmac is so good, he could do anything and still be real good about it, but its a problem when the other players is not looking for his own shots.
     
  3. beyao

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    TMac is the most talented player on the team, but he's NEVER been a part of an efficient offense in which every player is a threat.

    He's always been the focal point, and frankly, I doubt he can adjust to the role required of him because he's never done it. Hopefully he proves he can, but I just don't see it. We need guys who will attack the rim and who will move the ball without hesitation. Does that sound like Tmac?
     
  4. daddy cool

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    He won't adjust so he needs to be traded,Why waste time with something that isn't going to work and will only be a miserable tease.
     
  5. Fuse

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    Yao and Rafer seems to be doing a pretty good job thus far w/o T-mac.
     
  6. deeperblue

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    Well, T-Mac considers Rockets is his team, and he is paid most, so he shold take most of the blame.

    Yao should take his share as well for the failures you mentioned. I do agree although I am his fan. But there is one difference between him and T-Mac: Yao never quit. That's a huge difference.

     
  7. deeperblue

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    T-Mac wants to be the leader and thinks himself is the leader.

    "I can still impose my will on the game", "it's on me" ... What does it mean?

    And when he shot 1 out of 10 in the first quarter, the whole team struggle as a hell as a result, he said: "we didn't shoot the ball well". Man, it is YOU, T-Mac that didn't shoot the ball well! Admit it!!! No one will be able to shoot the ball well in every single game. But when you don't, admit it!!!!

    In another game, he also shot poorly and Yao was doing really well (I think that should thank to T-Mac's assists, I admit it). In the after game interview, T-Mac said: "I didn't shoot the ball well", then immediately, he changed, "no, I was trying to get my big fella going, ...". Is he r****ded or what? Get other people involved doesn't equal to your own poor shooting! Getting other people involved is a good thing, but don't admit yourself were shooting poorly is another thing, it is called arrogant and means he doesn't want to take resposibility for the bad part!

    Yao shoot poorly in Celtics-Rockets game (the game a few days ago), in one interviewl, Yao said something like "my performance hurted the team, if I could make a few more shots, we might win". Something like that.

    I admit T-Mac's raw talent. But the problem is: he is injury prone, he tends to quit when it is really tough (especially when the team falls behind big), he wants to be the leader while you can clearly see that what he says means he is not a good leader. I know I wouldn't want to play for such guys if I am a basketball player. He thinks he can impose his will on the game, well you know his percentage is not that stable and his shooting is streaky, on and off.




     
  8. poprocks

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    This article says it all about where T-Mac's head is at.

    Tracy McGrady: I Want to Play Baseball
    http://www.hoopsvibe.com/nba-blog/tracy-mcgrady-i-want-to-play-baseball-ar36142.html

    November 17 06
    Well, I can honestly say that I wasn’t expecting this one. Having made no prior indication that he was seriously looking into the possibility, Tracy McGrady has said that he plans to play baseball following his retirement from the NBA.

    The questions about McGrady’s future surfaced after he mentioned his desire to play baseball during an interview with TNT. The segment aired during the first half of Thursday’s game.

    If I had to guess which All-Star swingman was planning to pull an MJ by retiring to play baseball, I would have gone for Kobe Bryant. T-Mac, though? I have heard him mention that he’d one day like to try out as an MLB pitcher, but I thought that was intended in the same spirit as my saying that I planned to be an astronaut when I grew up. Then again, with the means to hire the finest trainers money can afford and arms long enough that he could hand the ball directly to the catcher, Mac just might have a chance.

    So, just how long until he has Adidas design him some cleats? Sooner than you might think, in fact.

    "I’m going to play baseball at the end of my (basketball) career," McGrady said. "I guess (TNT) took that to mean the end of my contract. But who knows what I’m going to do in four years?"

    McGrady, 27, said he would probably pursue a pitching career after he is done playing basketball.

    "I think I’ll be done with this game in my early 30s," McGrady said. "I would be a pitcher. I got a knuckleball, slider, changeup, curve and whatever."

    I hope you can stay with me while I put my second-grade arithmetic to work. Those of you without my prodigious mathematical abilities might like to follow with a calculator. Here comes the science bit.

    27 (Tracy’s age) + 4 (years left on his contract) = 31 (i.e. early thirties)

    To be honest, I’m not sure where I was going with that. Actually, hang on.

    "I think I’ll be done with this game in my early 30s."

    That was it. Is he saying he plans to ride out his current contract, then bounce for the diamond? This is all too much. If I had heard that Tracy was giving up the hardwood for grass, I would have thought he’d done a Ricky Williams and dedicated his life to getting high. At least that would explain why his eyes always look as if he ate some “special” cookies for breakfast.
     
  9. daddy cool

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    Very Interesting perspective.
     
  10. BONIERO1576

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    Exactly T-mac's passing is one of his strong points, the problem was that the offense stagnates whenever he gets the ball because he is looking for his shot. That's not the way this offfense works, this offense works by creating the shot off the pass. He has the ability to succeed in this offense he just hasn't grasped it fully, just like the rest of the team.

    This team has not hit its ceiling they're going to continue to improve.
     
  11. aaaccchhhooo

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    yes that is so true, Yao never quit, we have seen Yao play through all of his injuries with the exception of last year where he had a BROKEN LEG...also missed some game with a problem with a BIG TOE?, TMAC wants resting time for every little thing, even an ant bite he would ahve ask for time off so he can "heal"
     
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    this shows he have no heart in the game of basketball, if you're not passionate about something you're not going to succeed in it, no wonder he never get past the first round, no motivation
     
  13. poprocks

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    T-Mac's greatest enemy is himself. Look what Van Gundy said about him after he came out in the press about retiring in 2006.

    Van Gundy not buying it
    Yet for all his talk about how he has changed and how he feels, Van Gundy offered the answer McGrady liked best.

    "I'm not buying at all into what he says," Van Gundy said. " 'I'm slow. I'm not as athletic.' That's not what I see.

    "I see a quick, fast, strong, light, attacking, aggressive player that is a star player that has hit a minor bump in the road with his shot.

    "For a great player like himself, he's a little too introspective sometimes. He should just say 'I'm kicking (butt).' I never think about what he's not. I just think about what he is. He's a great, great attacking player and a great shooter."

    McGrady's troubles when he was making 34 percent of his shots in the first three games sent him on his way to his latest rounds of introspection.

    McGrady, averaging 19.4 points per game, is making 41.3 percent of his shots, 28.3 percent of his 3-pointers and 66.1 percent of his free throws, all worse than career averages. His 6.1 assists per game is better than his career average.

    "He's never been a pure shooter," Van Gundy said. "His balance and his arc are not conducive to being a Ray Allen-type of shooter. He's still a great, great player, who will have ups and downs shooting the ball. That concerns me not one bit.

    "That is not what has ever made him the special player he is. His versatility is second to none. He can score it. He can shoot it. He can pass it. He can dribble drive. He can defend with anybody when he puts his mind to it. And he's a great rebounder at his position. I don't want him overanalyzing his woes. His woes are not important."

    McGrady's inability to shoot early this season, even from the free-throw line, darkened his mood, maybe his confidence. In a way, that might have been a reaction to last season, largely lost to back spasms in the first week and a back injury in March.

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/sports/4347610.html
     
  14. tresimecgredi

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    this shows he said that in 2006 when he didn't know Dr. Patterson...and he said a lot of stupid things too :D
     
  15. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I see, so what you are really saying is that you are not happy t-mac considers this his team and he is paid more then Yao right? I know what this is about....all these guys who are crying and complaining about tmac and how he needs to be traded want to do so so this can be Yao's team!

    Well, too bad for ya man, T-mac isn't going anywhere and guess what, this is this his team, and he's going to come back and reclaim it in less than a week, and we're going to be very good. Guys will play even better, as will Yao, and you can cry all you want, but T-mac is here to stay!
     
  16. Williamson

    Williamson JOSH CHRISTOPHER ONLY FAN

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    Wait, a talent like him only comes around once a decade or so, but an average player career is about 12 years. So doesn't that mean that there are always a couple years where we have two talents like him? :D
     
  17. daddy cool

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    I hope your right,But he has a lot of changing to do,in order for this team to become his Team. Just because he is the star and makes more money than everybody else does not make this his team. But for guy's to play harder,He must play harder,They have played better because when he was healthy he didn't play hard every night which zapped the energy and life force out of the team,The last 6 games guy's have been able to stay in games because they started to play harder.



    He needs to learn how to play hard for 48 minues.
    When things get tough he can't abandon the offense and go off on his own island.
    He needs to play with more fight
    He needs to learn and move the ball,not because he drew a double team but move the defense.
    He needs to get rid of his negative outlook with everything and if he is the leader take the good and bad that comes with being chief.
     
  18. ai_111

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    Mannnnnnnn... people still think that we are better without T-Mac.
    :eek: :eek: :eek: :

    I am suprised. Only forum where fans think that the team is better without their best player. :mad: :mad: :mad: :rolleyes:
     
  19. longhornchampno

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    I see you the one who cries most often. You try to make it a war between Tmac and Yao in almost every one of your posts/replies. Every time you smell a post which has something negative about Tmac in it, you would accuse the poster a YOF and someone who has a conspiracy to make it a Yao's team or other stupid accusations based on whatever stupid assumption. It's fools like you who divide up this board and push the posters into two different camps. Why are you trying to do all this? Do you have a stupid purpose behind it or what?
     
  20. daddy cool

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    We are not better without him but he isn't the leader of this team just because he is supposed to be the leader because of his name and star power.He needs to come and play hard for 48 minutes with the purpose of winning the game and not just to make himself look like he did all he could but blame shift the coach,the talent around him or whatever the excuse maybe.



    He needs to come back and move the balll with a purpose not just pass the ball because they double team him. He needs to move the ball which moves the defense,He needs to move his body,Set screens for guy's and allow everyone to get in the flow not just him and Yao.



    If he is going to be the leader then he must bare all the responsibility be it Good or Bad
     

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