Yes the media and so-called pundits want the Rockets to never have outside shooting. Never have offensive efficiency Yes it's ok for a 5-yrar plan....but we are on the fast track to win-now-mode
Yes the media and so-called pundits want the Rockets to never have outside shooting. Never have offensive efficiency Yes it's ok for a 5-yrar plan....but we are on the fast track to win-now-mode
Any of the teams picking between 2 and 4 are going to be toxic as hell. Hornets have to pick between trading Scoot or drafting him and make an awkward fit with Lamelo. The Blazers have to do the same thing. Give it one last go with Lillard or trade him and rebuild? Rockets obviously have our own internal issues. Only SA is clean right now. Going to be civil war in a lot of these fanbases. I've had to defend Jalen and Jabari these past 2 years a lot from people *in here* and it's been tiring. So tiring.
Disagreeing and criticism are fine. I might have a preference for certain players or styles of play than others. I might have a different preference for coaching dynamics or disagree with an individual call that a coach makes. I have no problem with any fan disagreeing with an analyst, coach, expert, etc. I have no problem with a poster who says "X, Y and Z things worry me about this prospect. I'd prefer they go after a prospect that has A, B and C skills." If we can't do that as fans, what the hell are we doing on an internet sports forum wasting our time? The problem I have is the arrogance of some fans to immediately label someone as a bust or success before they've ever stepped foot on an NBA court, despite any analysis to the contrary by people who do this for a living. I hate when people view things as so black and white. Sports, like most things in life, are always a gray area. Every player has strengths and weaknesses; no prospect is amazing at everything. If someone wants to disagree and say "I wouldn't take Amen because I worry about his outside shooting," that is a totally valid take. I get where that's coming from, and I understand the logic behind it. People who post threads about "the Amen delusion" or act like picking Amen is definitely going to be a huge mistake before he ever plays an NBA game; yeah, I have a problem with that level of unearned confidence from someone who doesn't know what the hell they're talking about.
well the reality is being labeled as busts or won't do well etc is part of the criticism that goes along with it. it didn't start with amen and it won't end with amen.
OK? That doesn't mean I have to be OK with it, hence my original post. I'm very aware that arrogance and ignorance existed before Amen Thompson clanked his first jump shot. I know it's idealistic, but wouldn't it be great if we all lived in a world where we could say "I like Amen Thompson's game because he does these things well, even though I know he's not perfect" and another fan could say "I agree he has strengths, but I don't love his game personally because of the weaknesses." Can we all just acknowledge that all athletes have strengths and weaknesses, and it's OK to have a preference one way or the other while still acknowledging the opposing viewpoint? (Except for Daishen Nix, obviously. He sucks at everything.)
and it also goes back to my post. you don't apply that same logic to the same folks who b**** and complain about silas who these so called experts and scouts couldn't even come close to touching on a resume it's not even as simple as he can't shoot. no midrange game. no floater. He's not a great ball handler. His ability to finish at the rim was terrible. high turnover rate. it definitely isn't just 1 thing
Who said I didn't? Bit of a strawman argument here. Have you seen me in any post on this forum say that I think Silas had zero merit as an NBA coach or that he's incapable of coaching because his tenure with the Rockets was a failure? No. Because I generally don't deal in absolutes like that. Even in conversations with friends who are Rockets fans, it's always been "I think Silas got a raw deal and I hate how it turned out, but I think he's mishandled some things and the team needs to go another direction." OK? Again, did I ever say it was one thing? No. And yet the athleticism and playmaking skills are so enticing that many analysts still see him as a top 4 pick in this draft. I'm not saying those things aren't weaknesses he'd have to improve on. I'm saying the strengths are so strong and prominent that there's a reason why people who judge NBA talent think he could be a very good NBA player, and to completely rule out that possibility is ignorant.
Ausar got an MVP and 2 Finals MVPs in 2 years I consider that dominating the league. I also prefer him to Amen for the Rockets. The reason for these guys being ranked so high is not just their basketball ability, it is their off court maturity and hard work. These are the type of guys the Rockets are trying to collect. Guys with multiple physical advantages that also work harder and study harder than everyone else. It's pretty likely those types will be great. They are identical twins, so the potential is pretty equal. Ausar has consistently put up better production than Amen when on different teams or on the same team though.
doesn't have to apply to just you when you referred to fans. so that same energy should be kept towards them in regards to silas if you're consistent with the logic you're trying to apply. there's nothing ignorant about it. the draft is literally a guess. just because a "scout" online says oh he's this and that, I don't have to believe every bit of it. There's a ton of players in the league I want no part of. So because experts and basketball folks rave over westbrick I'm supposed to like him just bc they do. When in reality hes a loser and stinks. Folks can not want Amen if they want to, I sure don't. He isn't the only prospect I don't want either. And using some scout and analysts reference as the end all of it doesn't change that.
I'm not every fan or Clutchfans poster, chief, so I'm not sure why that's relevant. If you have a problem with it, you'll have to take it up with them, but I don't disagree with you. I feel like we're going around in circles here and I've made my point pretty clear, but I'll repeat myself one more time. I don't care if you disagree. That's fine. It's not the disagreement I have a problem with. I don't care if you don't want the Rockets to draft Amen Thompson. I care that there are posters who think it's "delusional" that anyone would think he could possibly be a competent prospect, who label him as a bust before he's ever played a game and who are so set in their ways that they would refuse to acknowledge any positive traits he brings to the table despite evidence to the contrary. I'm done with the argument now, but you strike me as the "I need the get in the last word" kinda guy. So it's all yours!
