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The Age of America Ending in 2016

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  1. rocketsjudoka

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    According to the IMF.

    http://money.msn.com/top-stocks/post.aspx?post=359e72b8-8531-44a9-a190-d1246d5556bd&GT1=33002

    The 'Age of America' is ending

    China will surpass the US as the world's largest economy soon -- sooner than most people expected, according to an IMF report.
    By Kim Peterson on Mon, Apr 25, 2011 2:36 PM

    The "Age of America" is ending in just five years.

    That's according to forecasts from the International Monetary Fund, which has set 2016 as the year when China's economy officially surpasses that of America as the world's largest.

    To put this into perspective, only 10 years ago the U.S. economy was three times the size of China's, according to Brett Arends at MarketWatch. We knew this was coming, but this is the first time the IMF has put an actual date on it. "Most people aren’t prepared for this," Arends writes. "They aren’t even aware it’s that close."

    The Daily Mail puts it starkly: "Whoever wins the 2012 presidential election will have the dubious honour of presiding over the fall of the United States." Even at its peak, Japan only had half of America's economic output, the Mail adds, and the USSR produced only a third.

    If you look solely at the gross domestic output of the U.S. and China using current exchange rates, you wouldn't see this coming, Arends writes. That's because China works hard to undervalue its currency.

    The IMF analyzed something different: "Purchasing power parity." Or, the amount people earn and spend in their economies.

    Using this yardstick, China's economy is set to zoom from $11.2 trillion this year to $19 trillion in 2016, Arends writes. The U.S. economy will rise as well in that period, but only from $15.2 trillion to $18.8 trillion.

    And the U.S. portion of the world economy drops to 17.7%, which Arends writes is the lowest in modern times.

    The Telegraph notes that the IMF report comes a few days after Standard & Poor's sounded a warning shot over America's debt status. The U.S. federal debt has hit World War II levels, and Medicare, Medicaid and other entitlement liabilities are five times the annual GDP.

    "It is premature to write off America as the world’s dominant superpower, for this is a nation that possesses an extraordinary ability to rebuild itself after periods of decline," writes Nile Gardiner. "It remains a beacon of hope to billions across the world, a 'shining city upon a hill' built on the ideals of liberty and freedom, as Reagan reminded the American people before he left office."

    So what's next? Will India and its gangbuster economy eventually pass the U.S. for second place? Will the U.S. dollar be replaced as the world's dominant reserve currency?
     
  2. Rocket River

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    Will the Rockets win a Championship then as well?

    Rocket River
    j/k . . but don't we get this kind of update about every 18 months. . .
     
  3. SamFisher

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    Even if this is true (and it's not like the IMF has access to special magical future projection powers) - who cares? :confused: Personally, I'd rather be part of New Zealand's comparatively tiny economy than India's.
     
  4. Rocket River

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    What exactly will this mean to Joe Blow Po' American?

    beyond bragging rights. . .what will we lose in this?

    Rocket River
     
  5. A_3PO

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    Hadn't given it any thought but I'm surprised it could happen so soon.
     
  6. Qball

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    In before conservatives blame Obama for the downfall of America.
     
  7. Mr. Clutch

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    Maybe, maybe no
     
  8. Invisible Fan

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    Their economy will grow 70% in 5 years?

    Will it zoom to 200% in 10?
     
  9. bnb

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    America was so overrated. That whole horse with no name not giving you no pain. Never got that.
     
  10. Ubiquitin

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    That's life.
     
  11. thadeus

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    Nothing we didn't already lose to our own wealthy class in the 80s.
     
  12. mc mark

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    +1 for the America lyric reference
     
  13. Major

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    This doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. From my understanding, they are suggesting that if China let its currency float, it would rise a whole bunch and thus they'd have an $11 trillion economy instead of the $6 trillion they actually have. But the problem is that if they actually let their currency appreciate that much, it would completely crash their economy.

    This seems like an article designed to generate headlines more than anything else.
     
  14. CrazyDave

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    exactly. I like getting articles like these as it confirms to me that not reading stuff like this isn't costing me much if anything.
     
  15. aghast

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    [rquoter]"There were plants, and birds, and rocks, and things".

    "The heat was [ahem] hot."[/rquoter]True that. Lazy writing is what got 'em, if you ask me.
     
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    You're still too late. That blame game started on January 20th, 2009.

    Actually, if I recall correctly, some conservatives were blaming the market crash in 2008 on fears that Obama would become President, so it goes back to even before he was in office.
     
  17. Phillyrocket

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    “The 19th century belonged to England, the 20th century belonged to the U.S., and the 21st century belongs to China. Invest accordingly.”

    – Warren Buffett
     
  18. Dairy Ashford

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    Nation-state may be a broken economic model as it is. 21st century probably belongs to multi-national corporations or a newly re-colonized Africa.
     
  19. brantonli24

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    The concept of the nation-state is the only thing that is holding human beings back.....and holding us together.
     
  20. Ubiquitin

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    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
     

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