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The Adelman Conundrum

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by verse, Feb 2, 2011.

  1. CCorn

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    I was saying RA could be a possibility for one of them.... Although it makes no sense for Rick to go to the team with the best defense in the league ha. For the Rockets they could use a young coach. like Mike Budenholzer
     
  2. Sydeffect

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    Twill though according to Rocket's sources report that he has superstar potential. Useless info to raise Twill's trade value? Possibly. Actually does have superstar potential? Possibly. Twill has some great defensive abilities, good passing skills, but lacks on a proper jump shot. I personally think he could be of important use for the Rockets but who knows.
     
  3. solid

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    I would like to commend the manner in which you disagreed with me, classy. We can disagree without being disagreeable, thanks.
     
  4. Aleron

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    why? rick's teams have typically been naturally gifted defenders (his teams usually always do well in defense), whilst he uses a team oriented offensive nature.

    Of course that's nothing like the Celtics roster is it? :p
     
  5. CCorn

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    Then maybe that's where he will go ha. I wonder how many assists Rondo would get under his system.
     
  6. Aruba77

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    i think two things win championships: defense and a couple of superstars. We have neither of these. Adelman is an excellent coach and there's simply no denying that. I wish we could splice JVG's passion for defense with Adelman's offensive genius to make the perfect coach and you know what? We still wouldn't be much better off than we are now. The problem is the roster.

    Houston has really benefited the last 8 years from excellent coaching between Adelman and JVG, and yet, they couldn't get to a championship. Early into JVG's career, we just didn't have the talent. Late into JVG's career, Yao and Tracy traded time in street clothes. Since Adelman's taken over, we had our moments, but again, our two superstars could not stay healthy. Now we have a couple of near-allstars, some excellent role players, and some young talent, but that's it.

    Morey has to outline a new strategy for building this team into a contender because the Yao era truly is over. To the extent you can find a young, up-and-coming basketball genius coach who will have the sustained commitment to mold a team into something special, then i can see moving on from Adelman, but I would argue that the decisions Morey makes on personnel will have more to do with whether we are a successful organization than anything else.

    IN MOREY WE TRUST
     
  7. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Why what measure?
     
  8. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    What about JVG? I'd take him back.
     
  9. Arun Sharma

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    Utah Jazz's facebook page quotes:

    "If you are going mention Sloan being a Hall of Famer, maybe Rick Adelman should be also. The fact is for 2 years his teams have played around .500 with no front court or size to speak of, such a mess of shooters. Adelman has been just as consistent almost as Sloan, taking teams to the finals also. If anything he is superior to SLoan. If one does not believe this watch his teams like I do. More often or not even when they lose every member of that team gives 150 percent and plays with tremendous heart night after night. They also won this year in Boston, more than I can say we did. He keeps his teams close to .500 when most coaches would not be able to do so...Rick though always insists on having multiple players be able to shoot long distance and Sloan is not a believer in this philosophy. The Jazz were outscored by 30 points from 3s tonight. He has to because limited front line, but Adelman in my opinion gets the most of what he has"

    "Miles/Bell 8-23 from the field, while Hayward/Evans go 8-8 and play half the minutes. C'mon Sloan!" - A guy complaining on playing veterans over youngsters

    I guess 2 good coaches.. combined for over 2000 wins likes to play veterans over youngster.
     
  10. clos4life

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    Man, with our roster you guys are still ragging on Adelman? Not even Phil Jackson could do better with the guys we have.
     
  11. Dreamin

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    Id rather win by playing girrty d and scoring 80 as opposed to losing after scoring 110. Bring back JVG.
     
  12. Corrosion

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    My 2cents ....


    Adleman didnt come here to coach a rebuilding team , he came here to take a good team deep into the playoffs. Not much left from that roster he took over that resembles a playoff calibur team.

    If he doesnt resign with the Rockets , he'd likely be one of the top candidates to fill any coaching vacancy in the NBA - He'd have his pick of jobs and situations.


    Unless the Rockets can make an immediate roster upgrade that makes them a contender for next season and beyond , I cant see Adleman wanting an extension.
     
  13. Corrosion

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    Even with JVG this team would be sub par defensively - Scola , Martin , Brooks , Budinger , Jordan Hill and Brad Miller are simply not good defensive players.
    Their lack of defensive talent is amplified by the fact that they have no one who can block or intimidate shots in the paint.
     
  14. thejav

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    Adleman coaching the lakers next year??
     
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    I like how Adelman can't execute defensively all of the sudden. Some of his Sacramento teams were pretty good defensive teams (the ones with Divac at C). In fact, if you notice when Divac started getting older and they started giving Brad Miller more minutes, the defense got worse.

    I don't know if you guys havn't noticed, but we don't have a player on this roster that can deter people from getting to the rim. I can't think of a team in the league that calls itself a good defensive team that doesn't have that at least to some degree. It's hard to play good defense when no one on the team is taller than 6'10.

    The problem isn't the coach, it's the roster. And I'm optimistic, because going into this season we didn't think we would have this problem (Yao being out for the season now). That's not to say that we can just draft/trade/sign a big easily, but at least we know what we need now.
     
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    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=173345&highlight=swatter

    That need was identified long, long ago. Not to say it has been remedied, because it hasn't, but it is not as if we just now figured out that we needed a rim protector. In this, Morey gets a huge "F" from me.

    Truly, it could have been anyone from Ratliff, Jordan, Camby, Kaman, Thabeet, etc. Some, I would like more than others, but that is irrelevant to the point that we have needed a shotblocker desperately for two years now. If Morey thought that he could rely on Yao, he was being stupid. The writing was on the wall with Yao. Regardless of Yao, we still needed a big to legitimately back up the Big Wall. I hope those that foolishly postulated that charges were more important and more valuable than a true shotblocker (I really hope Daryl was not in that camp, but I'm not sure) recognize the error of their ways.
     
  18. verse

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    Clutch:

    Have you heard anything regarding Adelman being offered an extension beyond this year? Some are positing that he may have been offered one and turned it down. I'm curious what you know or have heard.
     
  19. Deckard

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    If Adelman isn't offered an extension or has decided he won't take an extension, it's a disaster for the Houston Rockets. Hall of Fame coaches don't grow on trees and having someone else come in with a different coaching philosophy would really set us back, in my opinion. You might as well blow up the team and start over. I'm not ready to do that. Perhaps some here are, and I wonder just how much they would enjoy the results if we did.
     
  20. Dreamin

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    I had Mike Brown in mind. Mike Brown isnt a good caoch just because he had LeBron James. Mike Brown has solid all round skills and isnt as narrow viisoned like JVG and Aldeman. He started off as an assistant coach under Pops then he was an AC unde Carlisle. Mike Brown doesnt need players under a certain mould like JVG and Aldeaman does. He iis able to ntegrate anyone into the roster at any time and still make it work. Mike Brown has a solid defensive scheme as well as a balanced offensive scheme plus he can incoporate various styles. He can play haf court as well as the run and gun game, he can play samll or big. He can handle stars and he has recent NBA playoffs experience.


    But the Pacers are gonna pick him up. DAMN!!!
     

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