What other coach could win this many games with the group of players we have? Adelman is a top 5 coach, where are you going to find someone better?
letting adelman go would be a huge mistake. BUT if is he unhappy because we are not competitve then what can you do? no point in having adelman, which IMO is a great coach who has done a great job with what he has had to work with, if we can't even field a squad without an allstar player.
UHM? Code: Season Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS 2005-06 22 SAC NBA 72 41 26.6 3.6 7.6 .480 0.9 2.5 .369 2.6 3.1 .847 0.8 2.8 3.6 1.3 0.8 0.1 1.1 1.9 10.8 2006-07 23 SAC NBA 80 80 35.2 6.3 13.3 .473 1.6 4.2 .381 6.0 7.1 .844 0.9 3.4 4.3 2.2 1.2 0.1 1.7 2.3 20.2 2007-08 24 SAC NBA 61 57 36.3 6.8 15.0 .456 1.8 4.4 .402 8.2 9.5 .869 0.8 3.7 4.5 2.1 1.0 0.1 2.1 2.5 23.7 2008-09 25 SAC NBA 51 46 38.2 6.7 15.9 .420 2.3 5.4 .415 9.0 10.3 .867 0.6 3.0 3.6 2.7 1.2 0.2 2.9 2.3 24.6 that first year was Adelman's last year coaching the kings the following season was Kevin Martin playing under the revolving door that was known as the Sacramento Kings Head coach Kevin Martin can play (offense) doesnt matter the system, he may thrive under certain coaches but I dont think he'll all of a sudden start sucking lets say if he went to the Bucks under Skiles or soemthing like that...or even better if he went to the Pistons, he'll still be one of the league most efficient scorers.
I'm curious to see how Adleman's eventual exit from the Rockets will be handled. Rudy T and JVG did not exactly exit the building gracefully. Hopefully Morey and Les can handle this one a little more tactfully.
Heypee: Good response. I always enjoy our conversations. I don't think Patterson is deficient at running our offense. Not from the minutes I have seen of him. As for Williams, we have heard whispers that he may not be proficient at it. For that reason, I don't advocate starting the guy, but I do think Patterson-like minutes could be beneficial to his development. There is nothing that compares to realtime experience...gametime speed...and that may help to facilitate his "getting it" faster. Of course, he also may flounder tragically, at which time you pull him and he has no choice but to look at his play as the reason for his minutes. As is, I don't think there is any "carrot" for him...it is all "stick". Adelman's comments about there just not being room for him at the moment certainly didn't provide any vegetation. As for the correlation between lotto pick and superstars, we both know there are no guarantees anywhere in the draft. That said, I know the blue chip players (some of which don't succeed, of course) are often taken in the first few picks. Of course for every Duncan there is a Yinka, and for every Wade there is a Ginobili. But I feel better about my odds of drafting LeBron or Dwight from the top of the draft, as opposed to the middle. In the end, I think it is in everyone's benefit to know Adelman's future with the club. If you're happy with him, offer the extension now. If not, get riddy of Rudy. I don't see the benefit of leaving the situation unaddressed.
Coach won't tank; you'll have to fire him now. Both he and Morey are on record saying there will be no tanking. So, that part has been addressed. As for an extension, honestly, if I were Coach, I'd be thinking about doing what I normally do -- making a competitive learning atmosphere in practice to encourage growth of everyone based on winning. If I can get TWill to improve, and everyone else, great. I might stay. But I'd consider my options at the end of the year, and probably bolt to another team, especially if I feel TWill doesn't give me hope for the Rockets future. I don't see why Coach would sign an extension now. You're assuming he would.
oh yeah I will add this there is definite frustration from the coaching staff at the lack of having a superstar (or star whatever you want to call it) on the team since they arrived in houston. They referring to Adelman, Skima, Turner and Dunn. Every year their stars since they got to Houston have been hurt, whether that has been Tracy or Yao or both. They came here to coach and win around those two or at least one of the two and havent really had the chance to do so. The one year where Yao was at least healthy the team made it to the second round before he got hurt, of course that year Tracy gave the team nothing. They look at the other teams and say "they have X, they have X, they have X AND X, we havent had anyone they've always been hurt" Thats not to say they dont like coaching the guys on the team, but the coaches want to win and you can only win big if you got a star. Especially the assistant coaches who may want to be a head coach one day winning matters to them its not easy for an assistant to get promoted to a head coach to a different team unless they come from a winning background. This season is too late even if Morey pulls a rabbit out of a hat and lands that sort of star player I am not sure if this staff will be back given the uncertainty of the pending lockout itself and the unfortunate track record of the Rockets and their injuries. Right now I dont see how Adelman and his staff will be back there could be better opportunities elsewhere opening up this season (what if the clippers grew a pair and fired VDN who has done nothing and hired adelman? or even if he goes back to Golden State? or dare I say Miami if spolestra gets the boot?)
^ exactly. We're talking about RA like a gf who we are getting bored with and considering breaking up with. Then this summer, he, Sikma and Turner will bolt and we'll feel shunned and pissed at him. Leaving us feeling embarrassed and scrambling to attract someone else after we've been dumped. Great, let's lose at all costs, get Scola pissed at us for being losers, have our coaching staff bolt, get a not-to-exciting 8th pick, then just expect to attract star talent and coaches. Man, that's just depressing to think about.
I think RA will bolt out the door, he's a great coach but he needs a good team to win.. I could see if Jackson or Doc retires RA being looked at to take over there. I'm hoping if he does leave we get a young coach who is excited to get the job and wants to build our young talent. I think Mike Budenholzer deserves a chance to be a head coach, I think someone like him could be great for the future.
This sad truth scares the **** out of me. What if RA leaves? This team with no real stars has been so much fun to watch because of the awesome, unselfish offense. It they take even that away from us....oh man
No, I am not. I'm saying offer it...if you are happy with him. Offer it now and lock him up for X years. Don't wait til the off-season where there will be (and there WILL) other suitors.
Forgot to say, yeah, i enjoy these conversations, too. I agree; i don't see any reason why Morey wouldn't offer an extension. I have nothing to base this on, but I assume he did offer one prior to the season; and Coach turned it down until he saw what Yao could do this year. sigh. This is depressing me. Thanks a lot verse for making me realize Coach is not locked up for next year.
I agree 100% with you here, Adelman could have very well turned down an extension without seeing how Yao was. If he signs one and is locked in for another 2-3 years of up and down mess it will only hurt his coaching legacy. Leave now and go somewhere where there is far more promise would be a better option. It is a scary thought really I dont know what other coach is out there that could replace Adelman or what assistant is out there that can make that leap from assistant to head coach. Larry Brown? I dont want a coach that will be here for one year or two and then gone the next. To retain Adelman imo several moves will have to be made before the deadline and after the new CBA to bring in a star for him to want to stay. If he hits the open market he will have plenty of teams coming after him right now I cant think of a better coach who is available.
Lol. Every now and then I try to uncork a good thread. I can't always guarantee they won't be depressing, though. Want some more depression? We are going to likely lose our incumbent starting point guard and go into next year with a part time, limited point, backed up by a D(iminutive) League guy and a guy who can't get on the court in a throw away season. Happy now? Lol.
This, Boston and LA will both likely need a new coach at year's end, Boston in particular really only has 1 or *maybe* 2 years left with their group, and a young coach is certainly not what they'd need.
We aren't exactly Cleveland. Luis Scola and Kevin Martin aren't all stars, but as far as offense goes they're just under elite category (KM is actually in the elite category already offensively). Add Kyle Lowry having an improved jumper and Shane Battier shooting well and its no wonder we're good offensively. Unfortunately offense is only half of the game.
Phil Jackson employs a read and react system. What he calls the triangle offense, Adelman calls the corner offense. If this is Jackson's last year coaching, the Lakers have to a good look at Adelman next year. What I'm more worried about is if the Rockets let Adelman go it's likely they're headed into full re-build. That means getting worst than they've been these two season. The GARM isn't going to be fun at all.
