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The AB vs. Lowry Argument

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by roflmcwaffles, Mar 7, 2009.

  1. StevieFlight3

    StevieFlight3 Member

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    Just an obeservation, i didn't get a chance to watch the whole game completly. But I remeber a strech where Brooks and Lowry were on the floor and Brooks was bringing the ball up. Why the hell was he playing point, while all lowry was doing was camping at the 3 point line, really not usefully to have them both out if Brooks is going to play the point.
     
  2. JeopardE

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    Time to debunk this once and for all. Stop getting your scouting reports from Worrell and Bullard. They don't have a clue. Lowry is a terrific jumpshooter -- in fact, he is probably the best midrange jumpshooter on this Rockets team. His midrange jumpshot is a very high percentage shot. He has great form on his shot too. He just needs to extend his range outside the 3 point line, and there's really no reason why he can't do so.

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  3. motivation2k3

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    whatever your smoking... it must be good *****..because ab or kyle lowry cant /wont stop chris paul...
     
  4. JeopardE

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    Actually, Brooks did a pretty good defensive job against Paul earlier in the year. Brooks is one of the very few guards who actually has the footspeed to stay with Paul and not get beat off the dribble easily.
     
  5. MandM's

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    nash is fading.

    cp is another animal.

    brooks isn't ready to be elite. lowery never will be

    but play them in tandem and the results speak for themselves
     
  6. Roxxx4life

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    I think the comparison really depends on the situation on the court. If the guys are misfiring, AB's ability to score will help. If the guys are playing good offensively, KL's ability to dish the ball will help. Either way, both of them will help this team in a long run...
     
  7. Big MAK

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    +1

    No one will completly shut down CP every time, but AB did better than most. It's like saying shane/ron are terrible at defence if James or Kobe score 20... You just cant completly stop some of these guys, they are too good.
     
  8. SWTsig

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    the notion that lowry has a below average j is a fallacy. he may not have shot it well in memphis, but his technique is solid and he hits the midrange shot consistently... over 50% as a rocket i believe. and even though his sample size is small, his 3-point shot isn't all that bad either.

    the difference is playing on a title-contender as a opposed to an also-ran like memphis, imo.
     
  9. Jeff Who

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    Exactly. People say he is not a good midrange shooter, I don't agree. I have seen some games and I can tell you, he can make those jumpers consistently.

    But he doesn't have the range to shoot 3s. He can make few when he is open, but that's all.
     
  10. SWTsig

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    i agree with this 100%.

    and it's not like we didn't see a lowry-AB-waker-landry combo last night anyways (to mixed results, imo.)
     
  11. baller4life315

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    I'm cool with Brooks starting and Lowry coming off the bench. Hypothetically speaking, it makes the most sense to have the better three point shooter playing the most minutes with Yao. Yao gets doubled more than any player in the NBA so having good shooters from downtown is paramount.

    I agree with the poster that made the point that our second unit primarily consists of finishers. That's a good point. Plus, it seems teams are a little thrown off whenever Lowry checks in and immediately the play becomes more physical and everything goes to the basket all of a sudden. I love Lowry's one-man-fastbreak ability. There aren't many players in the league as fearless as Lowry with the ball in his hands. Sounds like the perfect "bench spark" type of player to me.

    Let Brooks finish the season as the starter. Let's see if this works. In the meantime, we can treat every game like the Jazz game where he judge who finishes the games by match ups and actual game play rather than the "loyalty factor" that suckered us into using Rafer no matter what. Hopefully, Lowry will work on his three point range and become somebody teams have to respect from that distance. If/when that happens.....look out.
     
  12. SWTsig

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    AB did a pretty damn good job last time he faced CP3
     
  13. Untraceable

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    yea and if chuck hayes could work on his dribbling & low post moves, and quickness, he could be a better version of charles barkley....seriously, if, if was a spliff, we'd all be high
     
  14. Shroopy2

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    Another positive for Lowry, an aspect Morey looked at heavily: He gets to the free throw line.
    IMO, thats CREATING offense. If its a contest between McGrady and Lowry driving into the paint, I'd almost have to pick Lowry. McGrady hopes for the superstar call, Lowry simply forces the calls in his favor.

    Another thing is having a good jump shot has come to mean 3 POINT shot. There's all kindsa space to operate inside the 23.75 3 pt line. Lowry cant hit from that distance, but he can hit regularly from 19 feet in. 2 pters still count in basketball leagues.

    I agree. I mentioned Lowry is being V-Span'ed, having to play 2 guard when he's a true point and not a good distance shooter. Lowry did play in a 3 guard offense in college at Villanova, so at least its familiar territory for him.
     
  15. Drift Monkey

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    Lowry isn't being "Vspan'd."

    The plays I remember, AB might have brought the ball up...but Lowry took the ball at the top of the 3pt circle and AB took position on the wing.
     
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    I think CP3 has the most trouble with guys who are as quick as him or even quicker. Although you can't completely shut him down but if you stop him having one of his monster games thats good enough. Patty Mills from Australia is another quick guy who CP3 had problems with.
     
  17. jopatmc

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    CP3 is good against the whole league. The best defense against CP3 is to make him have to work his .... off on the defensive end chasing his man around all over creation. This saps his legs and can cause him to be fatigued in the 4th quarter. That is the best you can hope for with CP3, wear him down and at least partly neutralize his offense with your own offense.

    How do you stop Steve Nash? Same thing. The elite PGs cannot stop each other. All they can do is make each other work hard on the defensive end and neutralize each other's offense. Brooks and Lowry give us a much better chance of doing that than Rafer and Brooks.
     
  18. motivation2k3

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    didnt paul shoot the gamewinner over brooks?
     
  19. shortfuse3

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    it's called seniority. letting lowry bring the ball up while brooks is still in is like a slap in the face to brooks. the guy hasnt even played 10 games and already he's taking over brooks' job.
     
  20. dakeem1

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    Lowry is better than brooks. I don't think anyone is arguing this.

    Those who are supporting Lowry to start for us haven't even looked at what the OP said. At the end of the day, the original post makes perfect sense.

    YES, lowry is better... howeve Adelman is choosing his line ups based on chemistry and which players compliment others.

    In all honesty, why does anyone care who starts out of the two if they are getting similar minutes? It doesn't make a difference. What really matters is who compliments the bench, and who compliments the starters.

    The OP got this totally right.
     

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