1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

The 2024 Baseball Season - Things to Come

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by jim1961, Oct 24, 2023.

  1. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    94,890
    Likes Received:
    95,025
    Another perpetually injured pitcher to add to the stable of the same?
     
    Nick likes this.
  2. Nick

    Nick Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 1999
    Messages:
    50,409
    Likes Received:
    16,639
    Exactly?

    But Kershaw and Buhler come off the books, no? And that other starter is permanently cancelled due to DV? Weren’t they having bullpen games in the WS?

    hell, they’re desperate enough for pitching, they’d have probably traded for LMJ.
     
  3. Radricky

    Radricky Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2020
    Messages:
    5,888
    Likes Received:
    9,142
  4. texans1095

    texans1095 Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2013
    Messages:
    1,758
    Likes Received:
    2,272
    Manfred is a dumba**
     
    BlindHog and raining threes like this.
  5. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    94,890
    Likes Received:
    95,025
    I cannot see this going anywhere.

    Just turn MLB into Savannah BananaBall if you're thinking about **** like this
     
    RKREBORN, awc713, vince and 2 others like this.
  6. IdStrosfan

    IdStrosfan Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2021
    Messages:
    7,565
    Likes Received:
    9,096
    FTR, I think this is a crap idea.

    However, the issue is that baseball is becoming irrelevant.

    50 years, ago it was the #1 sport in the U.S. and had huge numbers of children who played the game and were fans. The fans were spread across all ages.

    That has systematically been reduced year after year and decade after decade.

    Now, fewer kids than ever are playing and the average fan is the oldest of any major sport.

    Most people under 30 don't watch or follow baseball and that is becoming a bigger and bigger issue every year as (us) the core fans continue to get older and then pass away.

    MLB has the difficult task of trying to bring younger fans in and that simply can't he done without changing the game towards things that interest them.

    And of course, the fans like us are screaming to don't change it, but that's like continuing to watch movies on a VCR or riding a horse to work.
     
  7. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    94,890
    Likes Received:
    95,025
    The answers to those problems are things that MLB refuses to do, so we're left with candayass bandaids like this.
     
    IdStrosfan likes this.
  8. Radricky

    Radricky Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2020
    Messages:
    5,888
    Likes Received:
    9,142
    I don’t know, maybe try to grow the game in smaller markets by not making them play post season games while the fans are at work and kids at school?
    Also stop shoving Yankees, dodgers, Red Sox etc down everyone’s throats.
     
  9. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    94,890
    Likes Received:
    95,025
    A level financial playing field for everyone would be my personal Step 1.

    When over 50% of the teams have no shot ever at great success simply due to finances, you don't have a sustainable model.

    The insane and still rising cost of youth baseball, which cuts out a large portion of your potential fan (and player) base, would be #2.

    The time Postseason games are televised would be good bit further down the list.
     
  10. marks0223

    marks0223 2017 and 2022 World Series Champions
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2007
    Messages:
    11,689
    Likes Received:
    16,928
  11. J.R.

    J.R. Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    110,457
    Likes Received:
    164,529
  12. raining threes

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    16,068
    Likes Received:
    11,207
    ^^^^
    This
     
  13. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    94,890
    Likes Received:
    95,025
    Pancakes McClain talking about golden showers is something I never thought I'd hear

    but here we are
     
  14. J.R.

    J.R. Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    110,457
    Likes Received:
    164,529
    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5967592/2024/12/03/juan-soto-signing-update-600-million/

    The floor for Juan Soto is $600 million.

    The bidding for the free-agent MLB outfielder has surpassed that amount, according to two people briefed on the negotiations who were not authorized to speak publicly.

    Agent Scott Boras said Tuesday at Dodger Stadium that Soto has started the process of eliminating potential landing spots, but did not specify which ones.

    The clubs publicly known to be most serious about Soto are the New York Mets, New York Yankees, Boston Red Sox, Toronto Blue Jays and Los Angeles Dodgers. The two people briefed on the negotiations said that all remaining contenders have made offers above $600 million.

    The expectation within the industry is that Soto will make his decision by the end of the Winter Meetings, which begin in Dallas on Sunday, and possibly even before the meetings kick off. But Boras said he doesn’t expect an “imminent” decision.

    His deal is expected to be for at least 12 years, and its present-day value almost certainly will beat the record Shohei Ohtani set with the Dodgers last offseason when he signed a heavily deferred 10-year, $700 million contract. Ohtani’s deal was valued at $460 million for luxury tax purposes, and $438 million by the players’ union.

    The Mets are widely regarded as the favorite for Soto, with many in the industry believing the team’s owner, Steve Cohen, will top any rival bid. But the Yankees desperately want to keep Soto as a complement to Aaron Judge, and the Red Sox have emerged as a surprising force in the negotiations. The Blue Jays and Dodgers are considered longer shots, though the Jays were willing to match the Dodgers’ bid for Ohtani last offseason, and seem to be just as intently focused on Soto.
     
  15. leroy

    leroy Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2002
    Messages:
    26,896
    Likes Received:
    10,451
    Maybe they're the next expansion team.
     
    Buck Turgidson likes this.
  16. awc713

    awc713 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2012
    Messages:
    6,429
    Likes Received:
    6,069
    The lengths MLB will go to reinvent the game in an attempt to maximize interest while continuing to keep mid-week afternoon playoff games is just mind numbingly confusing. Can someone check if the league is run by BBWAA?
     
  17. cmlmel77

    cmlmel77 Up all Night Watching Houston Sports
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2006
    Messages:
    2,063
    Likes Received:
    4,485
    The tip that it is run by BBWAA is the lack of salary cap. The post two above yours is about the usual suspects bidding on Soto. Not only can 28 teams not even think of competing for him, even the ones willing to spend the money but who are in a poor location (Toronto, Boston) cannot get stars to take their money.

    It is a NY/Ca league and no one else matters. Just like the writers prefer, but demoralizing to 90% of fan bases. That is the issue, and a salary cap is the answer. Everything else is just a distraction around the margins.
     
  18. Pinchpincher

    Pinchpincher Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2024
    Messages:
    101
    Likes Received:
    117
    I find it insane nobody's (team pursuing) worried about Soto's actual age and happily offering 12-14years. Dude looked exactly the same as 19yo. That jaw already looked like NHL players steroid chin after landing NHL and getting the "strength" regimen for couple of years. Every retired MLB US born player has said it's a miracle always if players age checks out from these countries. Player just gotta get the bag b4 cat is out of there. Pundits say cheating stops with big deal on a line and everything is tripple checked. I bet I could get legit ID and birth cert. from Dominican with my own pale face and 600k to spend. Prob. 2 sets of relatives and legit clebration day honoring me at "my" high school too.

    If there would be team cap on spending, some changes made to deferred money and so on it would result more even competition. It would also require a hard floor so some teams would be forced to try a little now n then. Someone like Fisher prob. would get around that too to fk his team...maybe signing his son as 9th catcher with half the forced cap money :).

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/07...s-just-one-of-seligs-costly-decisions-for-as/
     
  19. Snake Diggit

    Snake Diggit Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2012
    Messages:
    12,938
    Likes Received:
    18,983
    Serious question: do you have Down Syndrome?
     
  20. Pinchpincher

    Pinchpincher Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2024
    Messages:
    101
    Likes Received:
    117
    Serious answer. You might have getting to that conclusion reading that message from person not speaking English as 1st language. So get off my D and go fk yourself.
     
    leroy and Snake Diggit like this.

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now