He can drive but he can't finish often. I am personally not a big fan of Tate which was not the case when the season started. It might be bc he whines so much that even Gordon has to tell him it's too much
He is shooting around .580 on 2’s. His hook shots in the paint is money and unstoppable going to his left. He works very hard down there. You assess a player on potential and skillset. Him driving to his right more can be worked on as well as the 3 pt shot and these things are workable. He has done everything for this team to be competitive. Not sure why people don’t like him while many praise Sengun who has slow feet, fouls often and has short arms who can’t defend the paint. And terrible 3 pt shooter btw. really baffling to me.
This team needs rim protection badly. Wood isn't doing it and Sengun is still relative unknown... To Rockets: Myles Turner To Suns: Eric Gordon, Nwaba, Brooklyn pick (if not top 3) To Pacers: Mikal Bridges, Suns #1 Pacers get a late #1 a replacement for Warren. Suns get useful 6 man and a late lottery pick to replace Bridges. Rockets pair Turner with Wood, whoever fits best with Sengun gets re-signed....
I have, he's their 3rd best player... There's value turning him into Gordon and a late lottery pick... Paul getsbhurt a lot and Gordon would provide good depth. There are plenty of 3 and d guys in the mid 1st... It's possible you're right... depends on their evaluation of him internally and the scouting they see in this draft class... Just spit balling... Pacers wouldn't want Gordon but he's needed to match salaries for Turner... hence, move Gordon to contender and a younger player for the pacers...
theres potentially 3&D players in the draft. One you have to hit on them in the mid teens which is probably low probability in the mid to late teens (statistically probably really low probability) and even if you do it will take a few years for that to develop. the Suns are trying to win rings now.
Eric Gordon isn't some ridiculous drop off from Bridges... different positions but he helps right away while a rookie being asked to play d and hit spot up 3s tends to develop faster... Again, not saying you're wrong but i think a late lottery pick and Gordon is fair value... doesn't mean they do it...
they don’t need EG. The need the 3&D wing. they only need EG if CP3 is hurt… which can happen but with the $$ they have invested in him and Booker they can’t afford insurance on that beyond what they have already have and still field. A complete championship level roster.
It's because he's an awful three point shooter. One of the worst in the league given his volume of shooting. And the fact that centers basically give that shot to him stymies an offense that depends on being able to create lanes for our guards. Undersized PFs in this league can be truly valuable, but they have to be able to stretch the floor. Tate can't do that. At his percentages, he should actually never shoot threes, or almost never shoot them. On a really good team, he's maybe a starter, but probably a bench guy for most teams. Everyone here likes Tate, but you have to be honest about your personnel and where they're going to be in the long run. The worst thing you can do is overvalue role players. Sengun is exciting because he's young and developing. Tate is no longer developing. He's a 26 yo final product with the same stats two years over, which is enough of a sample size to know what he's good at and what he's not good at. Add on to the fact that all of the top draft prospects are bigs (which we're hoping to land) and Sengun moving into the starting lineup next year, and it literally makes zero sense to hold onto Wood and Tate given that they'll be getting fewer minutes next season and thus have their value reduced in the trade market. That may mean trading Wood/Tate for other pieces, future picks, or using them + existing picks to move up in the draft (maybe move up from the Nets pick).
Yes to Myles Turner assuming we dont pick Chet. Draft Ivey and Sochan. Sengun/Garuba Turner/KMJ KPJ/Sochan Green/Christopher Ivey/Schroeder
Because tate is slow, short, can’t space the floor, and is a black hole on offense. He never ever passes back out when he gets the ball in the paint. He’s tunnel visioned and can’t be a starter on a good team
you know in that sengun highlight reel where he hits the 3 , gets the block , and does the spin move on the break ... The guy that assisted on the first 3 was Tate. dude is a massively unselfish player who has had to play with Wood all year . I hope we didn’t screw ip his development too badly . this is his second year . The 3 HAS looked better . The defense is still legit . He does all the glue stuff on offense too . he’s also not too short if we play him at the 3... or guard .. which is where he should be . he plays PF for us because..., Silas ? Idk . We are trying to lose . This is the one guy on the floor that always is trying to win . Wait till we put some good players around him . Wait till other guys can make him look better .
Sample size? So a player can never grow and develop a 3 pt shot? Lonzo ball was a bad shooter and now he’s over 40%. A shot can always be improved. There’s few players in the league that hustles and make winning plays like Tate.
Lonzo Ball is 24 years old right now. His 3 point percentage has gone up every year he's been in the league. Jae'sean Tate is 26 years old. His 3 point percentage, and every other stat, has remained the same for two seasons now. There is no development left for a player his age. "Hustle" is a scrub metric used to prop up mediocre players, in this case a slightly above average player with a few redeeming skills (like the near the basket hook) on a bad team. In terms of winning plays, really not sure what you're talking about. Tate has cost us a few games this season by not being able to throw a clean inbounds pass, so even on that front he's not a great late game player.
