More like "gotcha leading the country in the wrong direction". Those are legitimate issues, and McCain got stung bad by them. The Spanish leader thing, well, that was just a foible and obviously not in the same league.
I understand but in a debate like this strong punches and gotcha games are sometimes one and the same. Reagan's best debate moments which are still remembered today aren't remembered because they were huge policy victories where he showed why his policies were clearly better than his opponents. Some of his most remembered moments aren't even gotcha games but just one liners. I think one punch that I listed that was more than just a gotcha game was the bracelet line. That was a strong line that completely wiped an issue off McCain's table where he clearly thought he had strong advantage. McCain set it up with the most emotion he showed all night, trying to present himself as only guy who was really on the side of the soldiers and veterans. In one fell swoop that advantage was taken away from him in a very succinct line. Again, McCain didn't have anything that matched either that line or any of punches/"gotcha" games that were thrown by Obama. About the Spanish leader thing... I think it's important. If that was the only foreign policy slip up McCain made, I might be willing to let it go as just one of the "ooops" things that anybody would say. But with McCain those kinds of things are pattern, and it leads to the guy not really knowing what he's talking about a significant part of the time. McCain clearly doesn't understand Sunni/Shi'ia, how many troops are in Iraq or how many have been there for much of the time, the connections between Iran and various terrorist groups or which ones they aren't connected with etc. McCain has a pattern of not having a firm grasp on the facts and not understanding what's going on in the world today. Obama used that one example to show that. The example by itself wouldn't have been a particularly big deal. But to show McCain doesn't know what he's doing, it was useful and on target.
Obama needs to go DIRECTLY at McCain. Quit being a p^ssy. Attack him. McCain is such an easy target given all his flip flops. Obama has demonstrated better judgement on some really really big issues. Drill that into the ground. Next time America faces some tough issues, who do you trust to make the right choice given McCain's recent record? Ask McCain DIRECTLY about why he felt Iraq was gonna be a realitively easy conflict. Ask McCain DIRECTLY about why McCain felt we can "muddle" through the Afghan war. Ask McCain DIRECTLY why he attacks Obama on earmarks when his own running mate is the queen of earmarks. Ask McCain DIRECTLY why we couldn't open a dialoge with Iran in 2004 then ...but now we can. Ask McCain DIRECTLY to justify the $700 mil bailout when the Iraq war has costed roughly the same. McCain's answers to these questions will be silly and the debate is his chance to kill him on it. McCain's positions are indefensible. Obama, quit being a P^SSY!!!! Please ask him the questions us liberals want answered.
i like to add one more stingy blow by Obama, when deflecting McCain's attack on the "surge", the Illinois Senator countered "John, you like to pretend that the war started in 2007" very un-presidential. very presidential
Obama cannot do this - it would further expose his inexperience. Keep in mind he was a community organizer in Chicago when the decision to go to war was made - not exactly a position of meaningful leadership
...and what experience does John McSame have? Experience of making really bad decisions and experience in flip-flopping. If that is the experience he brings, no thanks. btw, thanks for the reminder on the community organizer thing. McSame himself mentioned Palin's PTA service in justifying her record. Martin Luther King was a "community organizer". Community Organizers is the bedrock of this country INCLUDING "Faith Based" initiatives and "Small Town morals." This notion of belittling Obama's service as a community organizer is outright insulting. The Dems need to HAMMER this point home. Obama is a man willing to work for FREE to help his community. That is integrity. What intregrity does McSame have? A flip-flop on dozens issues?
LOL Working for "free" doesn't count when convicted felons like Tony Rezko give you the hook up on a house. That is NOT integrity
bigtexx...just wondering. is there anything you like that obama says and anything you dislike about McCain. I mean, no normal, decent human being is one thing...
Note to self: Did not actually address the "community service" point. Just tossed in an unrelated and meaningless derailment. Thanks for your contribution.
Again you try and CHANGE THE SUBJECT and you do NOT ADDRESS THE ISSUE at hand. Another post that is very telling. Life is not good for bigtexxx's side right now.
If we're planning to surreptitiously bomb a foreign country, say Pakistan for instance, Henry the K has experience on his side. Just ask Cambodia.
Please provide the board the dates Obama was working on the south side and when he was an IL state senator. thanks
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barack_Obama's_Iraq_Speech http://www.barackobama.com/2002/10/02/remarks_of_illinois_state_sen.php Shoot if only the administration had actually listened to him then.
Here's a nice recap... from a swing state newspaper: http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/archive/s_590444.html The first debate: Advantage McCain It is not necessary to understand things in order to argue about them," wrote French playwright Caron de Beaumarchais in "The Barber of Seville." Barack Obama bore an uncanny resemblance to that remark Friday night in the first presidential debate with John McCain. The often stammering Democrat nominee showed yet again -- to borrow a phrase he filched from Hollywood -- that he doesn't get it, especially when it comes to matters economic. Sen. Obama seemed to blame the current financial crisis primarily on some mythical Republican ideology "that regulation is always bad." And in the World According to Barack, no economic policies predating the Bush administration could possibly have contributed to the implosion. The junior senator of Illinois also endlessly played the class-warfare card, oddly implying that the investment needed to create jobs -- an investment climate that his policies would kill -- somehow comes from the "bottom up," not the top down. And Sen. Obama repeatedly misrepresented his proposed massive tax increases as tax cuts for virtually all. It's a neat trick that is political charlatanism at its worst. Throw in his bumbling, stumbling and naivete on national security and foreign policy and Barack Obama came across last night as exactly what he is -- one of the most inexperienced politicians ever nominated for president. And John McCain never looked more presidential
No doubt tater_j is aware that the Pittsburgh Tribune is a right wing rag owned by noted wingnut Richard Mellon Scaife.
