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The 1st Debate

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by yaoluv, Sep 26, 2008.

  1. Nice Rollin

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    Thank you....why the hell are we so afriad of Pakistan and China?
     
  2. michecon

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    Cnn and MSNBC are both Obama TV, more so for MSNBC.
     
  3. thacabbage

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    That's how it's pronounced.
     
  4. Cannonball

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    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/26/politics/horserace/entry4482028.shtml

    CBS News and Knowledge Networks conducted a nationally representative poll of approximately 500 uncommitted voters reacting to the debate in the minutes after it happened.

    These figures are still preliminary and could change as more respondents complete the survey. But here's what we have so far:

    Forty percent of uncommitted voters who watched the debate tonight thought Barack Obama was the winner. Twenty-two percent thought John McCain won. Thirty-eight percent saw it as a draw.

    Forty-six percent of uncommitted voters said their opinion of Obama got better tonight.

    Sixty-eight percent of uncommitted voters think Obama would make the right decisions about the economy. Forty-one percent think McCain would.

    Forty-nine percent of these voters think Obama would make the right decisions about Iraq. Fifty-five percent think McCain would.


    We will have a full report on the poll later on. Uncommitted voters are those who don't yet know who they will vote for, or who have chosen a candidate but may still change their minds.
     
  5. 3814

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    Just shows the class of the McCain camp...

    Can you imagine the damage McCain will cause America if he uses this same childish behavior in dealing with foreign leaders?

    He's going to piss people off - and I can guarantee you that the war will reach American soil in his term if he is brought in as President.
     
  6. f_chowd0696

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    or "I-Rack".... that also disturbs me...
     
  7. yuantian

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    so what's your/Obama's suggestion then? i would like to hear it. stop giving them the aid?
     
  8. BigBenito

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    let's see what the poll on hannity & colmes have to say.

    dick morris, an avid mccain supporter, just said obama won. but again, these are analysts.

    we need to see new polls by the likely voters.
     
  10. Cannonball

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    Of the 3 cable news networks, FOX News is obviously the most conservative, MSNBC is the most liberal and CNN is the most moderate.

    I'm surprised that the CNN poll favors Obama more than the MSNBC poll.
     
  11. yuantian

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    not afraid. but why do you want more people to dislike this country? more friends are better than enemies.
     
  12. Zboy

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    If you are the sensitive type, then I guess, yeah.

    His posts are on par with Palin interview. I find them amusing.

    You wouldn't change the channel when Palin is on, now would ya?
     
  13. yuantian

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    really? i actually thought Obama was going to win easily. McCain did better than my expectation i guess.
     
  14. FranchiseBlade

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    McCain was good, Obama was better.

    Obama laid into McCain about not being sure he would meet with the Prime Minister of Spain, and McCain couldn't muster up a suitable response.

    I think the line of the night went to Obama when he brought up McCain saying that the U.S. could just muddle our way through the war in Afghanistan. McCain was steaming at that time. That was the most powerful moment in the whole debate, and clearly showed who had the judgment and temperament to be our next President.
     
  15. weslinder

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    A combined 1.7 Billion People and nuclear weapons. They can cause us enormously more problems than Iran or even Russia.
     
  16. Cannonball

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    CNN phone poll of 500 voters.
    51-38 Obama
     
  17. michecon

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    CNN may be most moderate, but it's not really right in the middle, just take a look at the leaning of their host/hostess, and the list of their political analyst invited.
     
  18. Zboy

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    Good to see that majority agree.

    Obama came out looking better.
     
  19. thacabbage

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    I would have to say that while I agree with Obama's foreign policy vision of pragmatic diplomacy, McCain did a much better job of selling the Wilsonian impulse of "success in Iraq" in this debate. I was thoroughly disappointed with Obama's inability/refusal to shoot down this mythical demagoguery regarding the impact of the war. Perhaps he didn't want to come off as offensive and perceived as sweeping the efforts of the troops under the rug? The surge needs to be labeled for what it is and that was not done properly.
     
  20. yuantian

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    polls don't really mean much. there is obviously bias. only designed surveys that address the bias really reflect the result.
     

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