Don't know what happened . I'm going to take his word in the press conference that the Spurs plan worked to perfection. We still exceeded expectations and maybe this will be motivation for him But yeah this was bad
Probably not... depends on the supporting cast I guess. But the revelation that Harden can't carry a team to a championship by himself come as a shock to no one. Only Lebron can do that stuff and even thats a longshot. KD and Westbrook couldn't do it with a terrific supporting cast. I don't see any reason why Harden couldn't be a 1A or 1B on a championship team
Honestly, like a 5 way player. Scoring, passing, rebounding, defense, literally no hole in his game. Obviously Harden is no Lebron. Same reason why him or Steph could never lead a team alone. They just need another star or two in my opinion.
@tinman I'm not understanding your angle, what's the difference between Tmac and Barkley success wise? They both failed at the end of the day, why do you treat which round they played in like they are titles? We're here to discuss two players who play(ed) for the Rox who for different circumstances failed. Your main beef is that he was a sabotager. But atleast his injuries always made you ask more. Can you please give a legit reason why Harden failed? Fully healthy - check You can tell when he actually tries for reference - check Why does he shrink in these moments going back to Okc?
Clutchfans Speaking about 2 same objects on different days: One day: This pile of crap is better than that pile of crap. No that pile of crap is better than this pile. Another day: This pile of gold is bigger than that pile. No, No, No,. This pile is way bigger. Bipolar we are.
2008-2009 for Tmac in my eyes was an abomination in Rockets infamy. I have despised him ever since. But he never, ever didn't try in the playoffs. He never ever laid egg after egg. He ALWAYS stepped up even though it wasn't good enough. Could he done something else to give the team a better chance of winning? Sure. But at least he always gave 110% every series from 05-08. Harden? Dude folds under pressure when it comes to the post season. He has been doing it since the Finals against the Heat when he was in OKC. This hurts just as much as the Toronto game.
Tinmac is a barkley nuthugger thats why he puts separation between Tmac and Barkley, even if you look at their stats Tmac has the 12th highest playoff PER in history whereas Barkley is known for being out of shape, slacking off, unprofessional behavior and all the stuff he criticizes young players toda I wouldn't bother with Tinmac, he is a frontrunner who only cared about the team when they were winning.
If you look back on it the events regarding the Toronto gane were just exaggerated, Tmac quit in a game that they were already blown out and he was dealing with pain on his knee that team doctors said were just his imagination. And it was a no bearing game in comparison to the dozens Tmac had played his heart out. But because he walked the ball in a blown out game suddenly it was like he betrayed the franchise.
i always say this in these tmac threads. tmac HAD better talent than kobe, he just never cared enough for the game to get to that level. he also defended a young dirk in the po's which is one helluva thing to do when you're the main scoring option on your offensive-talent depleted team.
LOL, It's ok to lump everyone into the 'he didn't win a championship bucket' Tmac belongs with DeMarcus Cousins not Barkley. Taking a team to the finals, winning a gold medal. As for the Rockets, he took the team WCF. Tmac only played 20 playoff games and won 0 playoff series as a starter for the Rockets. That's a horrible return on investment. There's still a chance with Harden, his era is not over. And if it ended to day and he retired, it was definitely a better ride that the Tmac Era.
it would've been nice if we went out like we did in pretty much any other loss in these playoffs. but the Rockets always seem to find a way to go out in the most painful way possible every single time. and I didn't even watch past 3 minutes into the second quarter. I feel bad for anyone who actually watched the entirega,e. all he did was get swept and beat up on a crappy Eastern conference featuring a Pistons team that overachieved one season and was never the same. how was that great? I'm sure harden would have got to the finals that year if he had that cookie cutter route.
But he did and he was super young too. I'm not going to degrade LeBron's accomplishments because you guys want to romanticize McGrady after this Harden debacle. LeBron is the best player in this era. Period. That Cleveland team with Mo Williams and Anderson Verajo was pure garbage. Same shitty Eastern Conference that Tmac was in with Orlando and Toronto. If some of you are using this loss just to attempt to justify the McGrady Era, that's just sad. I'd send all of you back in time experience it until Tmac gets traded and then send you back again and have it repeat over and over and over again
i'm not gonna respect a performance where someone gets swept in the end. he could not even get one game. at least harden got a few games in against the Warriors who won a chip. he was not tired and he had an easy route and the Spurs had to go through a tough Western Conference. No respect. Not a single game.
and yet you don't respect LeBron taking a team to the finals? You realize the last time the Rockets went there was in 1995. we had dial up modems any Rocket fan would trade for LeBron to be here. Morey would win executive of the year if LeBron came here.
