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That is it, The fans have had it! Break up the Damn Team!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tigermission1, Feb 12, 2003.

  1. tigermission1

    tigermission1 Member

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    ESPN, the world's ONLY Sports source right now after it ran CNNSI out of business, is a gossip network?!! Where the hell do you go when you want to watch sports highlights or behind-the-scenes reporting, do you read the Chronicle??! umm.... sorry, I will stick to ESPN. May be you don't have cable or satellite, that is why you are pissed!
     
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    There would not be 40 people who responded to this thread if it was as dumb as you consider it! And....No!;)
     
  3. tigereye

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    Lets see you wanna break the damn team. I agree that there needs to be one trade to upgrade to PF position, but breaking up the damn team is just stupid!!!!!! Why dont you be a true fan and have some faith in the team. When the team is down you dont kick them in the balls. Your just a damn bandwagoner. If your so unhappy with the personnel on the team, why dont you suit up and try to guard Shaq or AI or Kobe. I came on this thread to blast it to hell. Hopefully the Rox will string together a long winning streak and begin to kick some ass. I wanna see if you would still wanna break up the damn team then.
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  4. Dennis2112

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    The actual issue is with "ESPN the MAGAZINE"
    not the cable network.

    The CABLE network has many informative people who issue predictions based on fact and realism and not emotion. ESPN the magazine is looking to increase its circulation by being outragous and over the top. Outragous and over the top is great for entertainment but not much good basing your sports information on.


    ESPN the Magazine = fluff

    ESPN = E ntire S ports P rogramming N etwork


    Notice the difference....;) ;) ;)
     
  5. okierock

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    The Rockets don't suck, they are inconsistent, which is painfull to watch. The Nuggets suck, the Cavs suck, it could be much worse.
    I can explain pretty easily why they will not go deep into the playoffs, Lakers, Kings, Mavs, JailBlazers. We are not at the same level as these teams which by the way have all been together for the most part for several years. All of the above teams played inconsistently before they had some time together just like the Rockets are now. Relax, and try to enjoy the fact that you are a fan of the most exciting and promising NBA team on the planet.

    GO ROCKETS!!!!

    oh, and if you stop and reconsider and think the Rocket still suck, you can always go and be a Jazz fan :)
    This goes for you too tigermission
     
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    It seems that people thought I meant the whole team, I actually meant the so-called "Clique" on the team that seems to drag the off-court friendship and sensitivity to the game itself. Case in point, why did Steve pass the Ball to a 3-15 or 3-17 from the floor player who was not in any condition to score on that specific night? I will admit I overreacted in the Thread Topic, but I meant something else regarding specific players.
     
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    A Jazz Fan?!!:confused: What the hell are you talking about? because someone is voicing his opinion he is a team-traitor? Why don't we ship everyone who disagrees with the policies of the U.S. Administration over to Guatanamo with the rest of the POW?!! That is a rediculous argument! And one more thing, no one is expecting the Rockets to go DEEP! We are merely talking about playing well enough to at least be in a comfortable situation and secure a playoff spot without being the team that is about to be pushed out by the Lakers! Expectations for this team with the kind of roster, young or not, that we have and the type of players we have should be, and are in fact, high. If you settle for less, then you frankly are not a true fan at heart or just too blind in Luv! IF you knew your young teenage son could do better in school but instead you just let him slack off and get by, is that good parenting? Same rule applies here as far as I am concerned. I take everything seriously in my life, and I am passionate enough about everything I do, even in sports. So don't blame me if I am a bit angry with my favorite team and want them to play up to expectations!
     
  8. tigermission1

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    Actually they have one and the same owners. Most of the people who write articles in ESPN The Mag are people who are regularly can be seen on the Network. David Aldridge, the NBA's undisputed king of courtside reporting, writes in the Mag, as well as Dr. Jack Ramsey and recently Bill Walton. So please don't tell me it is the GOSSIP of Sports Mags. Come on, you know better than to doubt ESPN, most people follow their lead in the business. If you hear 610 Radio you will hear most of their news are ESPN sources, in fact they are part of it now. Dan Patrick, others are a part of them as well. So basically no matter if you turn on the TV or Radio or read a top Magazine, you will probably be getting their news, even NBA.com uses most of its top articles in its main page as links to ESPN.com
     
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    You know, Sometimes I think you people try to get on post replys just because you have nothing else to do! Is that really your counter-argument? Bashing ESPN?! What a genius!:rolleyes:

    Well, actually, if you consider all the games that they SHOULD NOT HAVE LOST, their Record should be 30 or better now with no more than 18 losses. So there is your answer. And no they are not Kings and Mavs or even Lakers, but they are at least better than Suns, Jazz, and to an extent the T-Wolves. If you think the Rockets should end up the season being worse than those teams, then you really should just leave basketball talk to people who are a bit more realistic than you are
     
  10. Mr. Clutch

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    So the Rockets beat a really old Jazz team on a back-to-back, Steve goes crazy scoring 30+ in 3 quarters, and now the Rockets are a good team? Come on, there is still a lot of work to do. The bad that I have seen this season still outweighs the good. Steve still needs to get it.
     
  11. tigermission1

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    Could not have said it better Mr. Clutch. And after tonight's loss to another yet terrible team, you can say that we have a whole lot to improve on personality and character wise on this team. This team really and terribly lacks leadership. Steve is a great player, but he has no leadership skills whatsoever, it is just not in his character because you either have it or you don't. Rudy of course, you don't want to get me started on him! What can you say?! Just when you think this team cannot get any worse, they go out and prove you wrong! I don't think it is the players that are at fault as much as it is the coach's job to take the blame for not motivating his team and players enough to go out and finish these types of games before the half is even over.
     
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    I like your comment on how "Steve still needs to get it." You are very right but for this to happen, we, as fans (unfortnately. I would like to coach too!) have to sit back and wait for our players to mature. Everyone knows Steve ain't no Jason Kidd, he is a unique player with a good combination of skills but lacks in the leadership department, for now!
    Everyone would have agreed that before the season started and before we knew what Yao could do, that this team was bound for another lotto year or a first round play-off loss. But now because Yao and the team have been hyped so much, we expect great things. that is where we are wrong.
    Teams such as the Lakers and the Bulls of Jordan's era, took years of gelling as a whole to make ti to where they got to. Even look at Hakeem, how many years of disappointments did it take him till he realised he needed to involve his team mates and to believe in the system? It hurts me when our team is brought back to earth with loses such as these, but we also got to remember what it takes to make a winning team. Splitting this team up will resolve nothing, time will help us more then anything!
     
  13. tigermission1

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    There is no question that what you are saying is generally true, Miggidy. However, you have to hold someone responsible when a team as good and talented as the Rox suffer humiliating loses from the following teams throughout this season:

    Clippers (twice), Grizz, Golden State, Hawks, Bulls, Cavs, and Heat. (8 Games to teams that no one is supposed to lose to).

    Notice I did not even bring in the games that we had a lead in and should have secured as a win but failed to, which happened at least 4-6 times this season including the late collapse to the Jazz two games ago.

    At one point you would have to just be really frustrated as a fan. I mean, this team really needs to take a long hard look at themselves in the mirror and decide if they want to hear their own fans booing them more often or not. It just really hurts me as a long-time Rockets fan to see this team's character suffering like this, I don't even know if they really care about their image when I see someone like Francis last night smiling at the end of the game and laughing his ass off with some of the players. The only guy that I really think "Gets it" is the youngest professional on this team, Yao Ming, who just looks full of sorrow and tilts his head when he loses ANY game, let alone to Heat and other scums of the league.
     
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    Here's my sugguestion....swear, b****, complain and make the Rockets hear it! Even if it stings a little (feelings). But, never stop being a Rocket fan.

    That's a fair-weather fan.
     
  15. Darrinlane

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    Break up the team? That is quite possibly the most idiotic(sp?) thing I have ever heard. I suppose we should win the championship this year. Go root for the Nuggets or Hawks. No championship team is built overnight.
     
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    Once again, a simple minded fan. I hope you are enjoying your bear.
     
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    I totally agree with you, that is what I am doing by the way. I was at the Rockets game last night and was cheering them so hard that the guy next to me got up and moved over to another seat. People were annoyed with me, but I still cheered and booed to let them get the message, and I think that they got it because the boos were quiet loud. I just don't think that this team should be playing as lousy and uninspired as they are right now.
     
  18. Dennis2112

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    Are you comparing ESPN the Mag to Sports Illustrated, Basketball Digest, Inside Sports, The Sporting News, etc. If you are then you have issues only a shrink can deal with. :cool:


    By your statement's , you show that you simply do not have a clue.

    The content in ESPN Mag is different than the news reported on the cable channel. The articles are, in most cases for entertainment value only. The same people that are on the cable network are REPORTING the news, NOT commenting on it.

    While Davis A is a very good inside source, he is far from the undisputed king. No one, I repeat, no one know what goes on behind closed door and in practice. Sometimes , insiders have to fugde with the info to have some substance to their story. If you believe eveything that David, Dr Jack, Walton, etc are saying then you are buying into the hype.

    Fortunate for me, I get my news sources from more than one place( the internet is a marvelous thing). That way I can be objective not fall into lock step with the prevailing ( espn thought line) wind.

    Try looking at different cities newspapers on line.
    Foxsports.com
    CBS Sportline
    sporting news
    Fan websites

    There are other places to look for info and then you can make an educated evaluation.
     
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    The problem has been in brew for a long time. It starts surfacing. The players are not quite getting along.
     
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    Well, actually I do read more than just ESPN, I was just pointing out that you either prefer something else or you simply own a stock in one of the others! But, you have your opinion and I respect it, but disagree with you. I think ESPN the Mag is a decent source for those who want to understand more about the state of the game and in making educated predictions. Here is one: ROCKETS WILL MISS PLAYOFFS BARELY BY 1 OR 2 GAMES BEHIND PHEONIX, OR LAKERS FOR SHAQ IS REALLY HURTING RIGHT NOW SO IT WILL DEPEND ON THAT!
     

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