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Thanks Obama: ILWU quits AFL-CIO

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Sep 2, 2013.

  1. basso

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    In what is being reported as a surprise move, the 40,000 members of the International Longshore and Warehouse Union (ILWU) announced that they have formally ended their association with the AFL-CIO, one of the nation's largest private sector unions. The Longshoremen citied Obamacare and immigration reform as two important causes of their disaffiliation.

    In an August 29 letter to AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka, ILWU President Robert McEllrath cited quite a list of grievances as reasons for the disillusion of their affiliation, but prominent among them was the AFL-CIO's support of Obamare.

    "We feel the Federation has done a great disservice to the labor movement and all working people by going along to get along," McEllrath wrote in the letter to Trumka.

    The ILWU President made it clear they are for a single-payer, nationalized healthcare policy and are upset with the AFL-CIO for going along with Obama on the confiscatory tax on their "Cadillac" healthcare plan.

    The Longshoreman leader said, "President Obama ran on a platform that he would not tax medical plans and at the 2009 AFL-CIO Convention, you stated that labor would not stand for a tax on our benefits." But, regardless of that promise, the President has pushed for just such a tax and Trumka and the AFL-CIO bowed to political pressure lining up behind Obama's tax on those plans.
    McEllrath also went on to say that they support stronger immigration reform than the AFL-CIO is supporting.

    One ILWU committeeman was even harsher on both the AFL-CIO and the President. ILWU Coast Committeeman Leal Sundet criticized the AFL-CIO telling LaborNotes.com that Trumka was marching "in lockstep" with Obama both on the "Cadillac healthcare tax" as well as immigration.

    Sundet slammed Obama's immigration plan saying it is "designed to give [only] highly-paid workers a real path to citizenship."

    Private sector unions have fallen to an all time low participation rate in the US workforce. Unionized workers now account for only 11.3 percent of the US workforce.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...bamacare-40-000-Longshoremen-Quit-the-AFL-CIO
     
  2. joesr

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    Can I haz job?
     
  3. Dairy Ashford

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    Are you supporting a larger, stronger AFL-CIO or do you not understand their leadership structure? Do you support the single-payer, nationalized healthcare policy that ILWU was advocating instead of ACA?
     
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    Happy Labor Day, America!

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  5. otis thorpe

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    Poor basso reglated to sypathizing with the largest union
     
  6. Brandyon

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    These are all reasonable questions, so I'm sure they'll be ignored in favor of making loud anti-Obama noises.

    The only thing more sad than ignorant sensationalism is the effectiveness of it. :(
     
  7. basso

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    I'm enjoying the cognitive dissonance.
     
  8. otis thorpe

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    you are right this ruins all the good the bill does. you should be estatic
     
  9. JuanValdez

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    You often seem to perceive cognitive dissonance where none exists.
     
  10. Air Langhi

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    I agree with them. Obamacare is stupid and is designed to fail. Too many loopholes and exceptions and doesn't reign in the costs as it needs to be done. We should have had a single payer system.

    However I am wondering if basso agrees that we need a single payer system?
     
  11. Brandyon

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    Psychological projection - A defense mechanism in which a person unconsciously rejects his or her own unacceptable attributes by ascribing them to objects or persons in the outside world.

    The desire for a positive self-image is typically rooted in an egocentric bias , which contributes to the avoidance of his own unpleasant cognitive dissonance. The fact that he typically deflects any attempt to engage in a rational discussion by making additional accusations only supports the premise that he's unwilling to confront the fallacy of his own logic.
     
  12. basso

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    i do not.
     
  13. otis thorpe

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    We exhibit more cognitive dissonance responding to basso threads
     
  14. Refman

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    I don't really disagree with you on that point, however, if you don't like ACA and do not want single payer...what would your proposed solution be?
     
  15. Buck Turgidson

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    Why? Why try?
     
  16. Codman

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    Basso never offers a potential solution. He/She only offers complaints. Can you imagine being his/her boss? :rolleyes::eek:
     
  17. Commodore

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    Only a matter of time before unions get an Obamacare waiver (without congressional authorization of course). Look for some obscure HHS agency to publish a rule on a Friday afternoon.

    This is a lawless Chicago style presidency where patronage and favors and graft rule the day. Power exists to reward friends and punish enemies.
     
  18. pirc1

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    Pretty much how Republicans work these days. When they are in charge, they do not try to solve the problem. When someone else do something about the problem, they will criticize about everything.
     
  19. JuanValdez

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    You mean because we think it's wrong to feed trolls, and then have to rationalize why X particular refutation is worth an exception?
     
  20. Raven

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    Of course he doesn't. He serves the 1%.

    And single payer is inevitable, and it will include dental, and it will happen in the next ten years.
     

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