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Thank you Daryl Morey & Staff

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by HowsMyDriving, Jun 25, 2009.

  1. DaDakota

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    I agree with that, but this team has holes in it NOW, that need fixing NOW to really contend...

    We need in order:

    1. A SG that can create as well as score
    2. A backup Center
    3. A PF with 3pt range
    4. Depth..

    I think all these guys would go into category 4.

    DD
     
  2. HowsMyDriving

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    which you were planning to address with your zero draft picks?

    i dont understand what it is you wanted the rockets to do? they pulled three high-cieling players out of thin air, and could potentially use them for any of those "holes" you mention.

    i dont understand how you can complain about getting three second-tier prospects essentially for free (from a cap/draft pick/trading away player talent perspective).
     
  3. DaDakota

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    What did I expect them to do?

    Work on a trade for TMac....get in on the Richard Jefferson deal, or the Vince Carter one....you know...players that can help NOW !!!!

    Unless they have something more, IE trade pending for some of these assets, it was an utter waste of time, none of these players are difference makers.

    DD
     
  4. HowsMyDriving

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    so, ignore the draft completely then?

    you're coming across as being awfully short-sighted here.
     
  5. DaDakota

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    Sorry, I thought we were trying to win a championship this year......my bad.

    DD
     
  6. HowsMyDriving

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    its much easier to make the kinds of trades you want, when you have players to give up that arent part of your core.

    regardless of what you think of the new rockets now, they are all high-cieling players, and they are not part of your core.

    instead of trying to trade an expiring tracy contract and brooks/landry/scola/whoever, now you can trade an expiring tracy contract and one or multiple of these people.

    we were trying to win a championship last year too, and we took a guy who is more unpolished than anyone of these guys in Donte Greene. He was raw as hell, and we took him in the first round! None of these guys even get guaranteed contracts. You get them in, you work them out, you see how you like them, and if you don't, what exactly did you lose? absolutely nothing!
     
  7. DaDakota

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    Again, if that is what Morey is doing...then FRICKEN OUTSTANDING....but that remains to be seen.

    Morey in the draft has been up and down....we have had Landry and Brooks and then Dorsey and Greene, mixed bag so far......

    Maybe Newley or Luenan will come in to save the day?

    If this is compiling assets than fine, but if not...then ugh.

    DD
     
  8. meh

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    Yes, but once again this is the DRAFT. It's one thing if you were to criticize the Rockets for not getting Vince/Amare/Jefferson or something, but another to criticize them for only getting 3 2nd rounders in a draft where they had zero picks.

    The way to actually improve the very next season through the draft is simple. It's called SUCKING. And as a fan I'd prefer not to see that happen.
     
  9. HowsMyDriving

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    regardless if that is, or is not what Morey is doing, he is in a better position to make moves now than he was earlier today. and he did it with zero draft picks. and without putting the rockets down for any long-term commitments, or trading any of our valuable players. in my opinion that is outstanding, no matter how you slice it.
     
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    very disapointed!
     
  11. DaDakota

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    Ok, I can see that side of it...

    DD
     
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    thanks dmorey for getting Budinger!
     
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    Don't worry about him. He's just being a whiny debbie downer.

    He's already forgotten how much Carl Landry contributed to this team in his rookie season. He's forgotten about his broken tooth and game saving block in a playoff game. All of a sudden, his stance has gone from JVG doesn't play rookies/develop young playlers to young players don't play on win-now championship teams.
     
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    I really need to proof-read :eek:
     
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    There is a reason the Spurs have been kicking our asses for awhile. They identify thei needs, stay quiet , and power move people. They got jefferson for less than what the rox got battier for. All the morey sac riders can write a formula for this bs.
     
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    I think Morey did well in this year's draft. Especially since the draft is used by good teams, oh like the Spurs for ex,, to reload their rosters with low draft picks, kind of like SA did by drafting Parker, Manu, Hill, and now Blair. Now I'm not saying that the three guys we just got are locks to become all-pros, but I do have faith in Daryl and believe that our draftees will eventually help the team get better in some way.
     
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    Haha seriously! Who invited Debbie Downer?!

    DD, you seriously need to step back and read some of the things you are complaining about and then look at the reality of the situation.

    You are acting like we gutted part of our roster to get these 3 second rounders
    Reality: We BOUGHT and traded one FUTURE second round pick to get these guys. Like an earlier poster said, the fact that they were all second round picks means we dont have to pay them anything or even sign them. The fact is if we don't find a trade partner for them or don't think they can help this team and warrant roster spot/contract, we can let them walk with no evidence of them ever being on our team except for the future second rounder we have to give up

    Reality: I think having 2 guys brought in in Budinger and Taylor, who are both more on the "polished" side opposed to the "raw/project" side, that seem to be good fits in our system, have a 100% better chance of helping us with a championship THIS YEAR opposed to the FUTURE second round pick we gave up to get them, which has a 0% chance. (I dont think you can trot out on the court 4 guys and a sheet a paper that says "Future second round pick" in today's NBA game.)

    And who says you can't develop young talent while going for a championship? Smart teams not only look at the present but also the future..

    Reality: Just because the draft is over doesn't mean our window for trading is over! For all we know Morey could have been working on a deal before the draft, during the draft, and even right now as we vent. Dont you think having these 3 guys gives us more flexibility? Can't we package them in deals along with T-Mac? And what happens if we trade T-Mac and Brooks and let Wafer walk, we have no depth at the guard position! I feel a little more comfortable now with whatever trade we make because we have actual bodies on our roster our management liked that they feel can play in our system opposed to having to spend the limited spending money we have trying to outbid other clubs on the free agent market to fill various voids left behind by potential deals.

    And a complete waste of time? We had NO PICKS! The draft was going to be a complete waste of time for us regardless..

    Reality: Yea your right, most 2nd rounders dont stay too long in the NBA, but there is quite a significant list of ones that did stay and are major players in today's game. The fact is that your writing them off already without seeing them play a game just because they were drafted in the second round is ridiculous. Like I said, I think Taylor and Budinger are more NBA ready than most 2nd rounders and have legit shots at making a contribution. If we can hit on one, AMAZING! If not we really don't lose anything except that future second round pick. That future second round pick that "has a 90% chance of not being in the league in 2 years"...

    Bottom line: Morey was able to turn nothing into 3 picks, that equals PRODUCTION. Whether it be for trade or for actual contribution to this team, he did something, something I really like. The risk is low and the reward is high
     
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  18. HowsMyDriving

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    funny, i dont remember there being a huge economic slowdown in 2006 when the rockets got battier. I dont remember half the NBA trying to move salary just to avoid financial collapse. I wonder if that (tiny) detail has anything to do with it?

    on top of that, the anecdotal "well the lakers got pau for a hill of beans" argument was silly then and its silly now. so the spurs got a good deal on Jefferson . . . well the rockets got a better deal on Scola. so there. and my dad can beat up your dad.

    if you're going to complain, at least complain in such a way where you have a point.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    Production? Or spinning your wheels on maybes when two SURE FIRES are being traded to teams trying to win now.

    Carter and Jefferson should have been targeted by us more than the draft.

    IMO.....

    DD
     
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    Who says they were not?
     

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