TF: Shut up and listen--Rockets Immediate Action Plan

So basically worst case scenario is he ends up as Zach Levine, but more likely Devin Booker or Bradley Beal or Kobe

Glad to see you have bounded the scenario via Bayes' iron law of archetypes.



Here's an idea - he could end up worse than all of those players.

 

His trajectory is ahead of Beal, similar to Booker.

Are you saying you would be disappointed in a Booker level player as a second pick?

Do you want me to list you the last twenty second picks in the league and show you were Devin Booker ranks?

 

People need to stop dreaming about Silas being fired this season. It won't happen for non basketball reasons. His dad just died and he's doing what the owner wants which is losing. Sadly Stone doesn't realize that Lucas could do the same thing but actually hold players accountable and we would see progress despite the losses.

 

None of OPs suggestions really do anything for the team other than temporarily quell the fanbase's thirst for blood.

Rockets are doing fine, fans just need patience.

 

This thread is premature ejaculation.

You know damn well they don't care to or even want to win games, it's counter productive to the end goal of adding a premium talent in the coming draft.

Then there's the fact that 83% of the total minutes played by this teams goes to kids 22 and younger. Those same players also score 85% of the points. No other team is close.

Did you really expect to be good when you traded away your best offensive player, a 20/10 40% 3 point shooter and replaced him with a rookie who has struggled shooting the ball?

Let's not forget that they have $62.2m in dead money that's 84.6% of the total salary committed ($73.5m). to players and $19.5m of that is EG .... Once EG is gone, they'll actually have more dead money than active roster expenditures. $81.7m in dead money when they buy him out to only $54m in roster obligations or 153%.

Tilman firing Silas isn't going to speed up this process. Silas gets as much out of them as any coach would.
They have the 4th best shot profile in the entire league, the only teams better are Milwaukee, Golden State & Boston.
They get great shots - they just can't shoot. Worst shooting team in the league yet opponents only out shoot them by 0.06%.

EG's recent comments were not factual - they were him being a malcontent - he wants out and is trying to force that.
Yes, he should have been traded already (or given the Wall treatment) but there was NO TRADE where you were getting a #1 pick back and not taking on bad contracts that extended beyond this year and that's a terrible deal for a team looking to have TWO max slots this offseason.

No one in their right mind can tell me that Green, Garuba, Sengun, KPJ and KJM haven't improved over last year despite their shooting struggles.
They've beaten 8 teams who were .500 or better.

Stop with the group think echo chamber of everything's Silas fault. Take a deeper look ....

 

No I'd like you to explain why you think his trajectory can't deviate from any of your archetypes.

What if it . . . does?

 

What if he tears his ACL?

What if we find out he got Deshaun Watson syndrome?

 

Also eye test clears him being more talented than Beal and Lavine at the very least.

I've watched enough of early Beal and Lavine to say that Green was far ahead of those players in creative ball skills and pure quick footedness. He obviously has a higher talent level than those two. Lavine is a great athlete but he's more of a straight line athlete than an athlete with wiggle and lateral dribble seperation.

Bulls and Wolves fans will readily acknowledge that Green came into the league with a much higher skill level than Lavine.

 

What if he's a weaker Isaiah Rider?

 

I want to see tyty have a go at lead point guard duty. We have nothing to lose, we already get ass blasted for 20 pts with kpj at it, how bad could it b

 

I don't know. But he joined the NBA after 4 years of college and still had similar production as 19 year old Green.

How well do you think 19 year old Rider fair in the NBA?

 

def not saying Bruno is better than sengun - or poss even Garuba... im putting him there as a place holder... i considered Garuba in the spot - certainly an option... Sengun & kpj im figurin coming off the bench (or poss starting dep on matchup...) in the future - so getting them into their future rotational spots...
and again, accepting Brunos shortcomings from a 'tank this year' perspective... lol

 

So what will be the excuse next year when we still suck? How about year 5, 6, 7? When is enough enough?

 

Yeah, that's just not true at all. Green and Smith's problems are that they are underdeveloped raw young players. KPJ can't make shots for them, he can't make either of them competent ball handlers, he can't put on strength for them.

I'm not sure why so many Rockets fans give Green and Smith a pass and blame everyone else for their shortcomings, but it's simply not accurate. That weird narrative certainly is popular though and I hear it repeated all the time....especially after games where KPJ plays well and guys like Green and Smith don't.

 

1). Tank hard, finish last and assure ourselves of a top 5 pick in the draft.
2). Trade 2023 Milwaukee pick, EG, KJ and filler for a valuable future asset.
3). Find a really good coach that will implement structure and accountability.
4). Find the best free agent acquisition we can.

 

Astros 2011 to 2013: pretty terrible record but that fit with an organization-wide reset, followed by fantastic front-office moves and a dynamic core of players.

This kind of reset takes time.

I could live with it if I trusted the coaching.