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Says a Republican? Seriously? Whose been claiming voter fraud?

 

All my life, the loser always claimed voter fraud. Trump blamed the Democrats and voter tampering. Hillary blamed Russia. During the Bush years, it was always about voter ID's and voter suppression. Republicans blamed Obama over the birth certificate and he has no right to the throne.

Lets stop pretending the winner or loser has any real dignity left at this point.

 

Remind me again when Hillary Clinton told her supporters to fight like hell to overturn the election or when her campaign conspired with state parties to put forward a bunch of “alternate electors”.

For that matter I must’ve missed when Mitt Romney, John Kerry, John McCain or Al Gore did any of those.

 

I'm not sure what this has to do with my comment to Pgabriel.

Unless you are saying it's perfectly OK to claim voter fraud as long as you're not inciting an insurrectionist. If so, I strongly disagree. Politicians should respect everyone.

 

n/m, wrong thread

 

Al Gore nor Hilary Clinton didn't claim voter fraud. Clinton was wrong in claiming Trump collided with Russia but Russia did and still is trying to interfere with our elections.

Gore challenged the recount

Edit: Texas AG Paxton is wasting time and money prosecuting voter fraud cases with few results. Thus is a Republican effort, not a whataboutism both sides do it effort

 

I don't recall Hillary ever claiming voter fraud. She said there was Russian interference. It was proven there was. She never said votes were stolen, counts were wrong, voting machines were hacked. Hillary's claims were much different than Trump's. She also didn't try to overturn the election.

 

The only reason Texas is still electing Republicans is because of gerrymandering. It's time to throw the electoral votes out the window and let the majority decide who they want running their state. That goes double for electing a President. The majority of people in this country should decide who they want as their leader.

 

That's not exactly true. You cannot gerrymander state wide or nationwide elections.

 

You can gerrymander for electoral votes in each state. We all know who usually wins the popular vote and it's not Republicans. The lines are like snakes in the grass, weaving around portions of voters who could stop their chosen ones from getting that electoral vote.

 

I guess you’ve lived a short life. Even during the Nixon years, when the S.O.B. ordered Watergate and got caught, it wasn’t about voter ID's and voter suppression. I remember it well, having voted against Nixon myself. Then what do you end that post with? The usual false claim of “equivalence,” that both sides “do the same thing,” which in Texas sure as hell isn’t true. The Republican Party is in the middle of a massive attempt to prevent voting by those who typically lean Democratic. Voters in the large cities of this state that have had Democratic city governments for years, and the Latinx and Black voters statewide being the GOP’s target.

There is no equivalence. As you know perfectly well, unless you are brain dead, which I doubt, voter suppression is entirely a Republican act of corruption aimed at enabling that party to cling to power. I disagree with @JuanValdez. I think in the not at all distant future the grip of the GOP on Texas statewide offices will slip right out of their hands. All it takes is a beginning. We just might see that beginning this November.

 

This is the real way things happened. Others who try to justify Jan. 6th, fake electors, floating ideas of military seizing voting machines, will try and ignore the actions and context to present a two sides of the same coin scenario which isn't accurate.

 

Lol so let the shaded areas decide for the whole country:

Spoiler: .

 

The ongoing effort to normalize what is clearly both abnormal and dangerous is dishonest and alarming, especially when considered in the context of both history and the current election.

There has been ONLY one presidential candidate in the history of this nation who claimed, 'the only way I could lose is if the other side cheated,' then followed up by claiming there was massive voter fraud, refused to accept the result, and took actions to overturn it. These actions led to a violent mob attack on the Capitol to stop the certification of the election, and he schemed illegal methods to overturn the outcome. And, of course, he is once again repeating the same 'I can only lose if the other side cheats' statement today.

 

People have the right to claim anything. As so many here argue that is free speech. It’s acting upon it that’s the problem.

 

Land doesn't vote.

 

When did Hillary a Clinton and Al Gore claim voter fraud?

What? Is @Space Ghost going senile?