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Texas will be the first state to reopen

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Andre0087, Apr 17, 2020.

  1. JuanValdez

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    Nobody of consequence that I'm aware of. Wasn't really my point. Just reflecting on the ways humans behave and the risk I see in the future of losing the big picture and kneejerking to the dumb things our president says. Like a broken clock will eventually be right, Trump's message to re-open for business will eventually be right. And, politically, liberals don't want to find themselves saying he's wrong once he's right because we're too focused on how he's wrong. But I foresee some people falling into that trap anyway (I may fall into it), so I thought it might be worth pointing out.
     
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  3. Carl Herrera

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    I wondering if Houston's famous strip clubs can reopen with clear plexiglass shielding between performers and audience members.

    Maybe peepshows are going to make a comeback?

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  4. Corrosion

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    I don't at all disagree - we need testing on a massive scale but testing alone isn't enough.

    We've got 330m people to test in this country .... and even if we have zero cases in the US , what about the 7 billion other people on the planet ?

    Eradication is an impossible task and one case easily leads to many more and testing the entire wolds population is .... not possible.


    Even going back to the beginning of this , patient one in China .... once that individual contracted this - it was going world wide because of how easily it's transmitted and the fact that asymptomatic people can spread it unknowingly - you likely had a period of several weeks of it spreading without anyone at all knowing or understanding ..... in an international city of 10 million.

    This virus was like Pandora's box ....
     
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  5. Rocket River

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    Worse yet . . . . . you can get it a second time or maybe more
    No Immunity
    No tried and true treatment plan
    Not enough testing . . .

    Rocket River
     
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  6. IBTL

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    The cost and pain of logistics for comprehensive universal testing now is minimal compared to the cost of half ass opening and scared population.

    Are you willing to go to a restaurant today? well you can't since its not safe even though we are supposedly open. Galleria?
    Not a chance.

    Kids want to go to zipline trampoline deal. Cant. I wouldnt let them anyway.

    How is this doing anything for the economy? Consumer confidence is zero if cant go out and unsafe. If cant test cant know if its safe. Test test test

    Or grab your you know what and prepare your ass to be inside for the foreseeable future.

    I would pay for family to be tested and I would gladly pay into a government fund to pay for those that couldnt afford the test.

    There are enough walgreens cvs and postal ups fedex to moblize the tests and could be a national program where all are tested over a 5-10 day period. It could get most tested in a 30 day period.
    From there the tests need to be available and if appears an aggressive test and trace plan for that too
     
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  7. Buck Turgidson

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    Bingo.
     
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  8. Corrosion

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    So you want to test 7 billion people ? That's the only way forward that's "safe."
     
  9. Senator

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    The fundamental way you live your life has to be modified for a year. Even wihtout a vaccine, the virus will mutate to a less lethal form like the flu. None of the items you listed are essential, America has a weird obsession with doctor's and always being sick and needing medicine even before Corona. What needs to happen is a fundamental shift to eating healthier and growing food like the good ol days, but when Ive presented these measures on the board, there is aggressive behavior from people like Buck Turgidson who want to drive their 12 mpg trucks, eat industrially farmed meat multiple times a day, then complain about global warming and coronavirus when they're fat, unhealthy and a part of the problem - not the solution.
     
  10. ThatBoyNick

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    Jesus Christ @Buck Turgidson

    This whole time I thought you were a decent guy... turns out your a **** head!
     
  11. tinman

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    If people here are insulting Texans
    They should be deleted

    they better get in the knees
    Clutchfans resides in Texas
    @Clutch
     
  12. tinman

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    You hit it on the head
    Non Texans
    Just like the obvious non Texans here posting stuff they don’t know about our state

    it mimics fake rockets fans on the GARM

    I hate those people and hope they find doom
     
  13. ThatBoyNick

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    Who’s not the Texan?
     
  14. RayRay10

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    So will Crenshaw, Abbott, and Dan Patrick throw a hissy fit about this order that I just got in my email. I mean, there are Exchanges and Commissaries in Texas...quite a few of them.

    FACE COVERING REQTS FOR EXCHANGE & COMMISSARY BY SERVICE

    DFAS-SmartDocs@mail.mil
    11:02 AM (1 hour ago)
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    Military Retirees, Annuitants and Former Spouses -

    Commissaries are requiring customers to wear some form of face coverings to enter the building. This policy falls in-line with the 5 April 2020 DoD guidance mandating all individuals on DoD property, installations, and facilities to wear face coverings when they cannot maintain 6 feet of social distance in public areas or work centers.

    The Army and Air Force Exchange Service (AAFES) and Marine Corps Exchange (MCX) face covering policy is aligned with local Command requirements. Installations requiring face coverings to enter Exchange facilities are posting signs on their doors. All Navy Exchange (NEX) associates and patrons worldwide are required to wear face coverings in all Navy Exchanges.
     
  15. RayRay10

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    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rural-texas-healthcare-coronavirus-reopening-2020-04-30/

    Rural Texas hospitals and clinics on brink of closure as state prepares to reopen from coronavirus shutdown
    The official in charge of the state's rural health care system says 60 of the 163 facilities he helps to keep open have less than 30 days of cash on hand. 60 Minutes reports, Sunday.

    Texas, like other states, will begin a slow, gradual re-opening of business Friday. But health care providers in rural areas of Texas tell Sharyn Alfonsi if COVID-19 outbreaks get worse in rural areas their financially fragile care systems could become overwhelmed. Some are already on the brink of closing. Alfonsi's report will be broadcast on 60 Minutes, Sunday, May 3 at 7 p.m. ET/PT on CBS.

    Sid Miller, who as agriculture commissioner also oversees the state's rural health care system, says 60 of the 163 rural facilities he's struggling to keep open in Texas have less than 30 days of cash on hand. Hospitals already teetering on the brink of financial collapse lost precious revenue from nonessential surgeries and procedures like colonoscopies the state cancelled to prepare for the pandemic. "It pushed them over the edge," Miller says. "I'm afraid-- this pandemic… we're going… to continue to lose healthcare providers in rural Texas and across the nation," he tells Alfonsi. "We had one filing for bankruptcy this week."

    Some argue the virus is less inclined to thrive in low-population areas. But Miller points to a rural town in South Dakota where an outbreak started at a meat plant. "It just doesn't hold true."

    The situation is particularly acute in Texas, says Dr. Leighann Falcon, who runs a clinic and works at Memorial Medical Center in Calhoun County. "We lead the nation in a lot of things and including uninsured," Falcon says. "Our little hospital down the street on any given year can provide up to $6 million in uncompensated care… It's hard to run a business when you're giving away $6 million a year." She's skipping her own salary to pay staff and dealing with extra costs of treating every patient as a potential COVID-19 case. Personal protective equipment is at a premium. To a struggling hospital, paying more than a dollar for a mask that used to cost six cents is daunting. "Without assistance, they won't survive," says Falcon. "If our hospital were to close, it would devastate our community. We're already short physicians. We're short for healthcare. If you have an emergency, and the nearest emergency room is over 35 miles away, that's not a good thing."

    Nurse practitioner Elizabeth Ellis owns the only clinic in the town of Bedias, Texas, where many of the 443 residents are elderly, uninsured or on Medicaid. In addition to seeing patients in her clinic, she must make house calls to remote areas of East Texas for those who cannot travel. Grimes County, where Bedias is located, is seeing an increasing number of COVID-19 cases. It was a balancing act to stay open before the pandemic, now Ellis fears the worst as people go back to work. "A lot of our community members have to leave the county for jobs. That puts them at risk," she tells Alfonsi. "So it was inevitable that at some point in time it was going to hit the county." If the virus presents itself in greater numbers, "I'm going to be overwhelmed. And what frightens me is that all of America's critical access hospitals, especially here in Texas, are at risk of closing."
     
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    https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/coronav...atalities-continue-to-climb-in-texas/2360954/

    COVID-19 Diagnoses, Fatalities Continue to Climb in Texas

    The number of reported illnesses diagnosed as caused by the new coronavirus continued to climb Wednesday, as did the death count.

    The cases of COVID-19, the illness caused by the coronavirus, reported to state health officials increased in number by about 1,000 Wednesday to 27,054, with 1,702 now in Texas hospitals, according to the Texas Department of State Health Services.

    The number of COVID-19-related deaths reported to the state rose by 42 to 732.

    The number of infections is likely higher because many people have not been tested and studies suggest people can be infected and not feel sick.

    For most people, the coronavirus causes mild or moderate symptoms, such as fever and cough that clear up in two to three weeks. For some, especially older adults and people with existing health problems, it can cause more severe illness, including pneumonia.

    Harris County, which includes Houston, continued to lead the state in confirmed COVID-19 cases reported to health officials with 5,986, almost 2,000 more than the day before. It also continued to lead in COVID-19-related deaths reported with 103, five in one day. Dallas County ranked second in both categories with 3,240 cases reported, about 140 in one day, and 94 deaths, including 10 in one day.
     
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    And.....for every thousand people in Texas approximately 9990 have NOT been tested.
     
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  18. Rashmon

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    So, on the day Texas re-opens...

    Y'all dip$hit supporters celebrating the victory over the unseen enemy, yet?
     
  19. LabMouse

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    Texas now passed Louisiana state for more cases. But that disabled governor is going to keep smiling on next briefing meeting for his victory on each week.
     
  20. RayRay10

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    Lot of big jumps in cases across a lot of states today:

    - Florida - 1,038 which is the 3rd highest and highest in a week
    - Texas - 765 comes in just under yesterday's high
    - Louisiana - 710 highest in about two weeks and more than double what they've been reporting over that time period
    - Georgia - 759 lower than yesterday's 2nd highest count, but 4 out of the last 5 days have been above 600
    - Maryland - 1,730 new high by a lot...doubles yesteday's total
    - Indiana - 795 either a new high or close to it
    - Virginia - 1,055 new high by over 200
    - Rhode Island - 341 moving back up over the last 3 days after they thought they had contained it earlier this week
    - Arizona - 314 2nd highest after yesterday's high...President is heading there next week
    - Iowa - 739 new high...almost a 10% increase to the total number of cases in the state...let's send those meat packers back to work though
    - Mississippi - 397 new high by almost 100.
    - Minnesota - 594 shattered their high count...last two days were the previous two highest counts. Total jumped by more than 10%1
    - Nevada - 229 new high and a huge jump from previous days this week
    - DC - 335 shattered the old high by over 100. Let's send those Senators back though
    - Oklahoma - 130 not a new high, but close. 3 of the last 4 days have been over 100.
    - Maine - 28 the last two days have been the highest in around 2 weeks

    And still a lot of states yet to report today. But, hey, it's safe to go out now...:rolleyes:
     
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