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Texas vs. California: what happens when liberals are in charge

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bigtexxx, May 1, 2014.

  1. tinman

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    Berkeley not too smart

    https://mslegal.org/2023/06/mslf-files-ocr-complaint-over-berkeleys-black-graduation/

    MSLF Files OCR Complaint Over Berkeley’s “Black Graduation”
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    JUN 19, 2023

    In May 2023, the University of California Berkeley (Berkeley) hosted its “Black Graduation.” The title of the event, the event’s materials, and the speakers at the event were not shy about conveying that it was a “blacks only” celebration. Even the official website for the event describes it in these terms: “The entire event is punctuated by musical performances and speeches curated explicitly for the Black community.”

    But Title VI of the Civil Rights Act bars racial discrimination in schools and colleges like Berkeley. Indeed, previous guidance from the US Department of Education has made clear that schools cannot facilitate—much less host and coordinate—all white or all black segregated proms, or have separate student awards based on race. And in other contexts, the Department of Education has clearly stated that even the mere title of an event can convey a discriminatory and exclusionary message. Here, it is hard to imagine any non-black student showing up to have his/her graduation celebrated at “Black Graduation.”

    Mountain States’ general counsel Will Trachman said, “All of Berkeley’s events and programs must be open to everyone, regardless of race. No event can cater exclusively to black students, just as no event can cater exclusively to white or Asian students. As both an alumnus of Berkeley and a former official in the Department of Education, I can say that this event should not go forward next year. We look forward to demonstrating that there is no exception to racial equality in this context.”

    MSLF is filing a federal civil rights complaint with the Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights, insisting that this event not go forward in 2024. Since Brown v. Board of Education in 1954, it has been clear that racial segregation in education is illegal. Yet Berkeley has walked willfully into race discrimination. It must end now.
    more at the link, including the complaint

     
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    Cal Berkeley has produced 110 nobel prize winners, 13 for Texas.

    throw Texas in the mix w other Calif universities, insofar as nobel prize winning reseach, it would rank 7th in the state of Calif

    the dearth in R&D talents may have led to this recent move by Tesla
    it took Tesla 2 years to come to the realization that there is not enough engineering talent in Texas to conduct R&D for a world class hi tech co such as Tesla.​
     
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    no one is above the law
     
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    so says one who has been silent on

    • the Jan 6 insurrection at the US Capitol
    • Trump, after leaving WH, refusing to return classified documents and then tried to hid them from the FBI
     
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    He hasn’t been silent he’s been posting a lot of op-Eds about why Trump shouldn’t be prosecuted.
     
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    As a CAL Alumni I don’t support the idea of a single race only graduation but I’m not particularly upset about it.

    And yes CAL has the second most Nobel laureates for a US university with 110. Only Harvard has more. Even our arch rival
    Stanford has 84.

    GO BEARS!
    https://www.bestmastersprograms.org/most-nobel-prize-winners/
     
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    it is against the law
     
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    That’s one reason why I don’t support it.
     
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    try a "whites-only graduation ceremony" on for size and see if it upsets you
     
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    Let me know if one happens and I won’t support it either.
     
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    Horseshoe theory at work.

    So smart they came out the other side on stupid.

    Also so 'not racist' they came out the other side on racist.
     
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    Stanford has a Black community services center !
    Stanford > Berkeley
    https://bcsc.stanford.edu/
     
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    How many were actually born in California though?
     
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    You might not know this but Stanford is probably more work than CAL. They dropped their “Indians” mascot back in the 70’s well before most other sports teams and go by a gender less non plural “Cardinal” and with a gender less tree mascot.
     
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    How many of UT’s Nobel prize winners were born in Texas?
     
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    https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/tesla-returns-to-california-for-new-engineering-headquarters/

    "We're excited to announce that Tesla's global engineering headquarters will be right here, the former headquarters of Hewlett-Packard," Musk said while speaking at the new HQ location in Palo Alto.

    The new offices in California are part of Tesla's push to hire engineers focused on research development and artificial intelligence, reported CNBC.
     

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