Yes, improvisation and creativity are the key. The first plays are scripted in case you didn't know. It's pretty hard to do anything when our O-line have hardly and protection at all. But, yes Davis needs to get his act together (unlikely), or even Vince can't save us against OU.
I wish they'd let Ivan play. Supposedly he was healthy enough to practice, so I'm not sure why he wasn't playing.
I'm not a UT fan but am a fan of Vince Young. I hoping this game proved he should be allowed to air it out. Jesus, they have qb with a cannon for an arm and great receivers...let the man show what he can do.
I am looking at the stats at espn.com and didn't see Selvin Young with any rushes nor kick or punt returns. Did he not play?
Selvin was out with an injury, I forgot exactly what it was. On a side note, Tony Jeffery was one of my high school teammates. I was very impressed with that catch he made late in the game. I'm glad to see him finally making a noticable impact on the team.
You know what's weird? How much continued support Chance Mock is getting. Over on Hornfans, there seems to be an actual consensus that he should get the start next week. Chance Mock looked capable - not outstanding, but good - in 3 games against crap teams. Against Arkansas, he looked adequate, but not someone who would actually win games for you. Against, K-state, he looked like crap. Consistent overthrowing of his receivers. And this is the only way in which eh's supposed to be better than Young. Did anyone else see RW wide open on 3rd and 22? Mock skied it. Young just didn't miss throws like that. Sorry, VY looks like a game-winning, fantastic QB. Already. If he can't run the full playbook now... throw it out like Vtech did. I supported the 75% Mock 25% Young formula before this. Thought it gave the pocket passer time to get in a rhythm, while injecting just enough of the X factor. Not anymore. Unfortunately, I'm afraid Brown might come down with a case of the Applewhites. Last time, he chose potential and it bit him in the ass. I hope he doesn't screw up now, but letting that affect his judgment this time.
VY looked great.. BUT your facing the #1 country in the land next week a team you haven't beaten in 3 years.. you have the country's best WR corp.. your facing the country's best defense Does a run first QB like VY really give you the best shot at winning vs OU?
Trust me, I highly doubt the (soon to be) starting quarterback at UT has a problem getting head when he wants it. I think your heterosexuality is safe.
Yeah. Nebraska has traditionally given them problems. Brad Smith almost beat them last year. Reggie McNeal did. Neither has Young's talent. OU's defensive scheming couldn't contain either one at all. Mock cannot beat OU. And I don't think you can play "not to lose" against a team like OU. Which is what Mack has to do, if he starts Mock.
well playing a pass first quarterback sure as hell hasn't gotten it done. and it's not like mock's been spectacular against good defenses with our best wr's in the country. i would say having young who is a threat to tuck and run every single time puts a ton of pressure on the D to make sure you don't leave him some open field to run to while still guarding the best wr's in the country. i mean he can turn nothing into something and something into touchdowns. that's exactly what we need to stand a chance against ou. not the same ol' same ol'. hell, have him throw deep about 10 times. maybe we catch 5 of em, and if they're bad, our receivers can just play defense and knock it down. and if worst comes to worst, they intercept it and fall down 50 yards from the line of scrimmage and it's a 50 yard punt. having a guy who can run and receivers who can stretch the field and a guy with an arm who can get it there seems fine to me. if vince succeeds, he's a hero and something special. and hell, if vince fails, maybe he'll lose the aura of invincibility he has in most UT fans minds (mine included) and we'll actually say, ok he's not perfect, and if mock played then we wouldn't complain as vehemently as now when he doesn't play. vince young's never lost a game he's been in. and damn near every drive he leads has some degree of success. first drive get down to the 3 only to be foiled by greg davis. then he gets it to the 15 later on a great run only to be stopped by a benson fumble. then he makes a beautiful 3rd down pass and roy drops it. then he hits jeffries. he picks up yards effortlessly. mock hasn't sucked as evidenced by his efficiency rating and hasn't hurt us with int's, but vince is just incredible. i play incredible until incredible stops being incredible. still can't believe neither quarterback has thrown an int through 5 games. that's just ridiculous. hopefully they're not saving them up for the ou game.
You have to understand that alot of Texans could buy your state, if they were so inclined. Keep things in perspective. Paying Stoops 2 million is tip money to alot of UT alums.
technically, i'm pretty sure we punted on the last one down to the 15. but with 2 minutes to go by then greg davis was tucked so far into the fetal position he was growing an umbilical cord.
Take a Chance ... or be Young? Stewart Mandel, SI.com They waited until there was absolutely no chance they could still lose the game. But then as the final 25 seconds ticked down on their Longhorns' hard-fought 24-20 victory over Kansas State, the 83,643 burnt orange-clad spectators at Royal-Memorial Stadium began the chant. "Beat OU! Beat OU!" After watching the way No. 13 Texas rallied to beat the 16th-ranked Wildcats on Saturday, it's clear the Longhorns will be bringing a different kind of offense to Dallas next week than in any of their three previous, unsuccessful Red River Shootout meetings with Oklahoma. ADVERTISEMENT The question is, which one? Will they take a Chance and continue their two-quarterback rotation? Or will they hand over the reins to their rising Young star? "It's the same [offense]," said fourth-year Texas receiver Roy Williams. "Just a lot more quarterback runs." He's got that right. Freshman sensation Vince Young, who replaced starter Chance Mock midway through the third quarter and, with the exception of missing a few plays after tweaking his ankle, stayed the rest of the way, ran 17 times against the Wildcats, gaining 80 yards. Without looking it up, here's wondering whether Chris Simms ran 17 times in his career, sacks not included. Young's impressive mobility -- and, as he unveiled in a big way Saturday, uncanny composure -- may be just the ingredient Texas has been missing in its thus-far unsuccessful attempts to crack Bob Stoops' speedy defense. "I think Vince helped us out a lot," said running back Cedric Benson. "The defense has to be very leery of his attacking ability. When he was in the game, it seemed like the defense played a little loose." While Young had gotten a few chances to show off his ability in the Longhorns' first four games, they were usually in garbage time. Not having to lead his team back after it had fallen behind late against a top 20 team, which he did, engineering a 10-play, 88-yard drive that included a picture perfect 52-yard bomb to Tony Jeffery and culminated in his 1-yard sneak on fourth and goal. "[Kansas State's defense] was running over us. We couldn't block them," said Texas coach Mack Brown. "That's why we took Chance out and put Vince in, because he's more mobile." Of course, Brown declined to discuss what his plans might be for next week. "I told them they need to enjoy this tonight and not talk about OU," said Brown. "We can start talking about OU after we watch tape tomorrow, which is the way it should be." Criticized in recent years for their conservative, simplistic game plans, the new-look 'Horns were anything but conventional Saturday, as witnessed by their game plan, which utilized an endless dose of quarterback sprints, option keepers and misdirection. However, it didn't necessarily translate into a more powerful offense. Williams, who may well be the first selection in next April's NFL Draft, was a virtual non-factor, catching three balls for 22 yards, though he did drop a wide-open pass the one time Texas threw down field to him. And Benson continues to struggle, gaining just 54 yards on 17 carries. The Longhorns' offensive line remains a work in progress. What Texas doesn't have to worry about, however, is its defense, which pressured standout K-State QB Ell Roberson into 5-of-18 passing and two interceptions, blocked a punt for a touchdown and forced a Roberson fumble to set up the winning drive. Defensively, the Longhorns actually match up quite well with the Sooners. They're a tad soft against the run (K-State's Darren Sproles managed 128 yards on 24 carries, Roberson 87 on 17), but Oklahoma has turned into more of a passing team, which is good news when you have cornerbacks like Nathan Vasher and Cedric Griffin. The bad news is, their offense, even with Young, remains a question mark. Not that they feel that way. "I don't think this team realized how good we are," said Benson. "I think we are one of the top three teams in the country, I really do." Interesting. Now where have we heard that before? Oh yeah, each of the past three years. If there is indeed something different about this one, it's that A) The Longhorns have actually been legitimately tested, twice, going into the Oklahoma game, B) The expectations surrounding this team aren't quite as high as in the past and C) Young alone would give any team reason enough to hope. Now, Brown just needs to figure out what he wants to do with him. "It's hard," said Williams, "to defend an offense that uses three wide receivers, with a back, and a quarterback who makes plays with his feet." Hint, hint Sooners.
Vince Young has to start. First off, I think Chance Mock has nothing upstairs in terms of pocket presence and his ability as a passer/scrambler is overrated. Then, every time this year Young comes in he makes a special play. Against NMST it was the way he ran with ease. Against Tulane it was his 60 yard run. Against KSU it was that near safety and the final touchdown. I've said it before, and i'll say it again: Vince Young is the only player on UT outside of Roy who could make Greg Davis look good. Also factor in how much OU blitzes and Stoops track record vs mobile qb's(Smith/McNeal) and you can see why I want Vince starting for OU. But the real reason is Vince Young is the closest thing I've seen to Mike Vick in college and will be a superstar. Chance Mock is an average qb at best. Vince Young is electrifying, Chance is not. But the bottom line is Vince is better, and gives the team the best chance to win.
