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[Texas State Record] Yates annihilates Lee High School 170-35

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Rockets34Legend, Jan 5, 2010.

  1. Icehouse

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    It's not about getting those 3rd stringers ready for the playoffs per se. But are you saying you shouldn't take the most valuable place to develop kids....actual game time....and have them go easy? How is that what's best for those kids? Why bust your balls to get into a game and be told don't play to your capabilities?

    And what's wrong with chasing records?
     
  2. Icehouse

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    I think thats bs. You are basically saying the Yates team should just quit. In sports you are taught to give your all when you are in the game. If you want the yates kids to just dribble out the clock then you are basically saying the game is over, so why waste those kids time or risk getting them injured. If you want them to do that why not just forfeit the game? If you don't wanna play say you don't wanna play. But don't say I wanna play but I want you to go easy on me and bs around. That's wasting the time of both parties, and the fans who came to watch.
     
  3. RocketsPimp

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    It's not penalizing the kids by teaching them class and sportmanship.

    That said, I'll go along with your argument of their defense is their offense. When a team is down like that, it should be time to work on other aspects of their game (ie. their half-court sets). If anything, that is how you improve your team. Running up the score as was done in this game is just setting the team up for failure by not using the game situations to work on their weak points.
     
  4. steddinotayto

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    Easy fix: Create a Mercy Rule.
     
  5. Icehouse

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    Matt, so you are saying teams shouldn't attempt to set records? Then why are we mad at the Colts for not going for 16-0? Why did we cheer for Dream to set the shot block record, or kareem the scoring mark? Should the Bulls not have tried to go 72-10? Why do runners try to set world records? Etc. records are ok for adults to obtain but not kids?
     
  6. Icehouse

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    Yates whole offense seems to revolve around the press and running. Yes, I think the best place to try what you learn in practice is an actual game. Practice is practice...not an actual game.
     
  7. Icehouse

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    I don't see what they did that was unclassy. If they had their starters in then I would go along with that argument. But they had the bottom of the bench in. The gameplan does not change when the scrubs come in the game. Those kids still practice hard and it's not fair to them to tell them not to play as hard as they can because the other team is worse. Using that logic there is no purpose to even play the game, which is athletic competition.

    I don't think working on things you generally don't practice is as valuable as making sure everyone on your team can execute the gameplan that you do practice, which has led you to a championship and dominating play. JY doesn't win by running half court sets. They win by pressing the hell out of teams and running. So it's best to work on those things, but that's just my opinion. For exampel, if the Rockets are killing a team by 30 in the 4th and the bottom of the bench comes in, they still practice running Rick's offense in a real game situation, right?
     
  8. jevon3012

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    The outrage over this is what the world is turning into. Everyone has to get a medal and everyone is a winner. No ones feelings can be hurt. Why do we even have championships in sports? Doesn't it hurt more to lose the championship game by even one point than to lose this like?
     
  9. Icehouse

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    I can go with that, and don't they have one in baseball?

    It just irritates me that a coach has the right to forfeit, but he doesn't want his kids to quit....he wants the other coach to make his team quit (basically saying don't play your best). That's bs.
     
  10. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    its valuable to teach these kids lessons in life instead of getting some third stringers some playing time who will never put on another basketball uniform for an organized team once they graduate. should they play, hell yes, should they be bullying up on inferior competition, NO

    you're right, this is right up there with cal ripken
     
  11. Rocket River

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    When tempers flare and someone's D1 Scholarship and future is lost because of a 'hard foul' or worse after the game . . . .. well don't complain

    You take the good of something like this. . .the acolades
    you should not complain about the bad . . Elbows to the throat or worse

    It is . .. what it is

    Rocket River
    What are they Sewing. . . .
     
  12. Steve_Francis_rules

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    I would argue that if you're beating a team by 100 points, your bench players are not going to gain any more valuable experience from playing them than they would from scrimmaging the starters in practice.

    None of these records you're talking about are comparable to a record for most embarrassing ass-whooping handed out to one opponent. If the Colts beat their final two opponents to go 16-0, that wouldn't be a huge embarrassment to those teams. Hakeem blocking AC Green to set the record isn't an embarrassment to him.
     
  13. Rocket River

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    Outrunning someone is one thing
    running backwards and laughing at them while doing it is quite another

    Rocket River
     
  14. Icehouse

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    Agreed. This is part of the wussification of America. I remember a quote from some movie (don't remember which one) where some kids dad was like "I'm not trying to teach my son how to win, I'm trying to teach him how to lose". Sometimes your best just isn't good enough. If you want to say we have had enough...let's just call the game, then that's cool. No shame in that. But it's not fair to say I want to keep playing but hey, you just don't play as hard. Not if it's serious competition. Life doesn't work that way. Sometimes you get your butt handed to you. Do you admit you just aren't as good and shake the other persons hand (this happens and is fine)? Do you use that as motivation to get better (this happens and is fine)? Those are the ways to respond. But in life, you can't say I suck so please go easy on me. And I see more of that behavior out of kids today, and I believe part of it is due to things like this.
     
  15. Icehouse

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    Is a life lesson not also on how to lose (or lose big), and how to respond when that happens? Does that not happen to basicaly everyone in life? These are HIGH SCHOOL kids, not 1st graders.

    And if you play your hardest you are bullying someone?
     
  16. Icehouse

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    Agreed. But again, how is it fair tho those kids to tell them "thanks for killing yourself in practice...now you get to play but don't play hard because the other team sucks".

    And this isn't an embarrasment to them. Unless your argument is blowing a team out shouldn't be done....
     
  17. pgabriel

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    i'm going to go with almost multiplying a basketball score by 5 is bullying, but that's just me
     
  18. TheFreak

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    You think this was an actual game? Would it be more beneficial for the Rockets to play an 'actual game' against UH or Rice or the Comets or a local high school, or scrimmage each other in practice?
     
  19. Fulgore

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    170pts in a 32 min game????? Thats unreal. No highschool in the country wants to play Yates.
     
  20. steddinotayto

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    What's funny is that everyone here wants to criticize and question Yates High School and its coach but where are the questions for the coach of Lee High School? I'm sorry but if your team can only muster TWELVE points in a half, you're not doing your job as a coach. My intramural teams back in undergrad scored more than 12 points in a half and most of the games were against taller, stronger, more athletic, and better teams.

    Is it right to run up the score and win by 135? No
    Is it right to prepare your players to score only 12 points in a half? No

    That Lee High School coach said he felt disrespected by what had happened. Hell, if I was one of his players, I would feel disrespected that my coach apparently had zero game plan for my team to score more than a dozen points.
     

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