Texas liberals shamefully protest Perry's measures to safeguard women's health

they voted with their mouths

 

Sorry, I don't get behind the idea that it is something to celebrate when the legislative process is disrupted by a small group of people going nuts. You say it is a victory for the people of the state of Texas, but not if the people of the state of Texas actually want the law passed. Those are their elected representatives.

Like I said, if tea partiers had made it impossible for Democrats to pass PPACA by shouting and screaming in the halls of Congress they would not be considered heroes of democracy. People on the left would call them terrorists. Heck, they got trashed for getting into verbal arguments that got loud with their Congressmen in the town hall meetings.

 

I'd agree with you if not for the fact that the political process/rules were pretty much trampled all over by Republicans in order to get to that point.

 

LOL - a deal with it post, without a deal-with-it dog or some variant?

You're slipping brah.

 

Civil disobedience is as much a part of democracy as gerrymandering.

 

Perry attacks Wendy Davis

PERRY: In fact, even the woman who filibustered the Senate the other day was born into difficult circumstances. She was the daughter of as single woman, she was a teenage mother herself. She managed to eventually graduate from Harvard Law School and serve in the Texas senate. It is just unfortunate that she hasn’t learned from her own example that every life must be given a chance to realize its full potential and that every life matters.

 

Oh come on. I'm sorry but you can't just throw the blame on the protesters. The Republicans royally ****ed this up. Dewhurst and Duncan just made up Senate rules along the way.

Lets count the number of rule violations by the Republicans. All of which are getting no scrutiny. The Republicans are breaking Senate rules left and right and are trying to rig the whole thing and instead people are willing to trash protestors. You claim the protestors are limiting the ability of legislators to pass legislation (which you are correct on) but you don't bother to mention that those same legislators weren't following their own rules. Viewers of the gallery of rules on decorum that they should follow but didn't and I get that. But Senators also have rules to follow and they did not.

Lets list the rule violations

1. The third germaneness question was a joke. Mentioning the sonogram law isn't germane to an abortion bill? Hell the first germaneness question was that talking about cuts to family planning wasn't germane to an abortion bill. That's ridiculous.

2. Watson had never yielded the floor so Estes was not allowed to make a motion to table. Duncan just stuttered his way through a bunch of bull**** to justify it. And in the end he just used some silly circular logic to justify it. Keep in mind he stopped Watson's point of order that was based entirely on Senate rules on the grounds that it too was engaging in circular logic.

3. Duncan pulled a Tom Craddick and just arbitrarily decided not to recognize Van De Putte when she clearly raised a privileged motion (motion to adjourn) A privileged motion supersedes all other motions but Duncan refused to acknowledge her

4. Dewhurst EXPLICITLY said that the senate would vote on ending a filibuster if there was a third violation and no such vote ever occured (Duncan just pretended that he hadn't heard anything).

5. The Republicans edited the freaking timestamp on the vote after the fact.

6. Most importantly, the protesters had been making a rucus since 9PM. Dewhurst could have justifiably given them a last warning and cleared them out much earlier. He was weak and pathetic like he usually is and did nothing. Republicans had a million chances to clear the gallery to head that off.




The Republican leadership in the Senate is INCOMPETENT to the largest degree possible. They ****ed up in so many ways, treated their colleagues terribly, violated a multitude of Senate rules (there are plenty that I didn't mention) and let a novice parliamentarian just railroad the whole process with made up interpretations of the rules.

Yet we're all going to just ignore that and blame the protesters. The Protesters were 100% wrong to start yelling and interrupt Senate business but the Republicans were equally if not more criminal for the way they ran the Senate. The Senate works on decorum too and the Republicans too decided that they didn't need to be mature and respectful.

 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>RT <a href="https://twitter.com/byjayroot">@byjayroot</a>: <a href="https://twitter.com/GovernorPerry">@GovernorPerry</a>: <a href="https://twitter.com/WendyDavisTexas">@WendyDavisTexas</a> was &quot;teenage mother herself&quot; and it's unfortunate &quot;she hasn't learned from her own example.&quot;</p>&mdash; Texas Tribune (@TexasTribune) <a href="https://twitter.com/TexasTribune/statuses/350278276574482433">June 27, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Yes, all teenage girls should become mothers so they can earn Harvard degrees because all people and situations are just alike.

 

From a man who presided over Texas' 500th execution last night.

 

So you have nothing to say about an attempt at fraud at the highest levels of state government. And, of course, you could care less about the absurd gerrymandering of districts in Texas to deny minority representation. You'd rather focus on some Texas citizens exercising their rights of free speech under the Constitution. Got it.

 

Those polls were based on questions on "generally..."

when asked about specifics situations:

85% said abortion should be legal when woman's life is in endangered.

76% said abortion should be legal when pregnancy was cased by rape or incest.

55% said abortion should be legal when child would be born with a life-threatening illness.

32% (this is a surprise to me) said abortion should be legal FOR ANY reason (so the statement above that it's extreme is not true --- 32% is pretty significant).


Since the law proposed would essentially remove current all abortion clinics and have no exceptions for many of those situations above, it's not in-line with the American Public.

 

If this measure was only about '20 weeks' I think the Gov would have a winner, but of course that is just the PR "face" they put on the measure.

 

I like this one.

 

Probably not since the courts have struck down other laws that banned abortion after only 20 weeks.

 

Just to add to this but doesn't the Texas legislature have a way of electronically casting votes? The MN Legislature does so even if there was a loud protest the legislators could still vote.

 

The House does but I believe the Senate only uses roll calls. They're supposed to be the more old school and cooperative body but you wouldn't know it from the way the Republicans ran the show during the filibuster.

 

http://www.amazon.com/Mizuno-Womens...sr_1_1_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

 

^^^ awesome!

 

The man is going Clayton Williams on us.