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Texas killed an innocent man - What should it do about it?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SamFisher, Sep 10, 2009.

  1. Franchise2001

    Franchise2001 Contributing Member

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    I hope he loses hair over this... then his political career will be doomed.
     
  2. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    what is the usual punishment for helping cover up a murder?
     
  3. insane man

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    more than that this isn't about the execution anymore. its about the cover up. and perry didn't address that at all.
     
  4. br0ken_shad0w

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    Even pro-death penalty people should admit that what Perry is doing is ****ing stupid. Of course, many comments on the Chron article pretty much echo Perry's statement. How Christian of them.
     
  5. halfbreed

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    If you look to the Chron.com comments section for anything useful, you will be disappointed. You should play the same game I play with my family and friends. On any given story, guess the number of comments it takes for someone to relate said story to any hot button issue (usually illegal immigration).

    It will make your time browsing that website more worthwhile.
     
  6. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I was just about to post the same thing. the comments are sad
     
  7. Vinsanity

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    It's a Texas thing.
     
  8. insane man

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    Cover up just makes it look worse. As a conservative myself(and pretty disenfranchised with the current republican leadership) its a pretty despicable act made worse by more and more despicable acts.


    "If we gotta start somewhere, why not here? If we gotta start sometime, why not now?"


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  10. rocketsjudoka

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    I heard the other day on NPR that former Gov. Mark White is calling for Texas to reconsider the death penalty even though he had signed off on the execution of 19 and campaigned on his tough death penalty stance.
     
  11. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    I heard that myself. You know, this issue is killing Perry and I couldn't be more pleased. It's getting national attention and the firing of the board members just before the report was to be issued is just like the Saturday Night Massacre by Tricky Dick Nixon, something that hasn't escaped the notice of folks of a certain age. Helping to kill an innocent man just might be turn out to be the tipping point for Perry losing his primary.
     
  12. Rashmon

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    Interesting statement from his wife who claims he confessed to her he did it before his execution. Don't know what to think of this turn, it's not clearly a confession, but...

    It is a long statement but here is the relevant portion:

    "He asked me if I remembered the last time we had gotten into a fight and he hit me. I told him yes when I was holding Amber. He asked if I remembered what I had told him that I was going to do after the first of the year. I said that I was going to divorce you. He said the night before the fire we got in to an argument and you had said it again that you were going to divorce me. I told him yes I did say that. He told me that he believed I was going to but he couldn't let that happen. Todd told me that it was stupid but it was like an obsession. He said if I didn't have my girls I couldn't leave him and that I could never have Amber or the twins with anyone else but him. He told me he was sorry and that he hoped that I could forgive him one day. He said once again I have no right to ask you for a life sentence but Stacy no one wants to die. He said he had a lot of people fighting for him and that he would die saying that he was innocent. I looked at Todd and I told him that you are right no one wants to die and neither did my three daughters. I stood up walked out and I never looked back."

    http://www.star-telegram.com/804/story/1709042.html
     
  13. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Does that mean this thread is moot?

    If so, the system worked.

    DD
     
  14. SamFisher

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    No. The evidence that exonerates him is physical in nature. Or precisely, the absolute lack of it.
     
  15. SamFisher

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    This doesn't appear to be a confession? :confused:
     
  16. JuanValdez

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    Yeah, it's not clear that it is a confession.

    At this point, it doesn't even matter if he was guilty. That the Commission was not allowed to hear the report is the biggest political point. That the forensic evidence might not have been reliable is the second biggest. Whether he was guilty is tertiary.
     
  17. Dave_78

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    So you take the word of the wife over evidence/lack of evidence? What she said didn't sound like a confession to me but even if it was I thought it took more than someone claiming someone confessed to have that person convicted and put to death.
     
  18. Rashmon

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    I agree, I even stated it's not clearly a confession and the timing is a bit odd as well.

    Could be a pure political move by Perry at this point.

    Just threw it out there because I saw it today.

    I don't have a horse in this race.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    But that does not prove his innocence, right?

    The inference was that he was innocent...but nothing in here supports that, unless I am missing something.

    It looks like they cocked up the evidence, but might have done the right thing.

    DD
     
  20. SamFisher

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    Have you read the underlying article? There is also pretty much no evidence of his guilt - and the old evidence used at trial was exposed as a joke. Under our system of justice- that means you are innocent.
     

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