I'll vouch for Fran's competence, even if he is a lying snake SOB who I hope gets eviserated by the Longhorns this year. Mark Richt, the coach for Georgia is that way because he led the Dawgs to their first SEC championship since the early eighties, something two previous coaches could not do (I cover the SEC among my responsibilities at the paper). Stoops was the same way and look what he did for the Okies. A national title, several straight years ranked in the top five and he is one of the best gameday strategists and playcallers around (look at that fake punt from their own thirty that was the nail in the coffin for my beloved Tide). I wonder what Mack Brown's record when losing at the half is. The aforementioned Tuberville of Auburn was 5-15 at Auburn when losing at the half, proof positive he is incapable of adjustments.
All that wonderful talent that has been recruited by UT. Wasted. I'm so angry I could scream. Great talent + lousy coaching = overrated mediocre team. I'm still going to the Rice game next weekend, but as far as I am concerned, this season is history. The sooner they get rid of the uberphony, Mack Brown, the better.
I too don't get all the Mock-bashing. NO ints and 3 TDs. Meanwhile the D gives up 265 rushing YDs. Texas was moving the ball under Mock (22 1st downs, 21 for Ark). UT couldn't stop Ark, plain and simple.
Parade All Americans: Cedric Benson - #1 RB in Texas 2000, Parade AA Jonathan Scott - #1 OT in Texas 2001, Parade AA Justin Blaylock - #1 OT in Texas 2002, Parade AA Still no running game? Is talent the problem? On defense... Derrick Johnson - Preseason AA, Parade AA Nathan Vasher - Preseason AA, Parade AA Marcus Tubbs - Preseason AA Rodrique Wright - #1 DT in Texas 2002, Parade AA Larry Dibbles - #1 DE in Texas 2002, Parade AA Bryan Pickryl - #1 DL in Oklahoma 2002 Why can't we stop the run? Jammal Lord rushes for 250 yards against us. Matt Jones looks like Michael Vick. Wes Welker turns into Terrel Owens. Not to mention Quentin Griffin looked like Walter Payton when he played Texas. It's going to be amusing watching Jason White light up our secondary with deep passes to Brandon Jones and Mark Clayton. Not to mention, watch Josh Fields and Rashaun Woods connect over and over again. Darren Sproles will probably have a career day as well..
They've gotten the best rb in Texas 3 years in a row, maybe more if you count Kenny Hayter. Either they aren't developing the talent or they're misevaluating them. The latter is unlikely because alot of player we have were recruited by OU, Miami and company. So, something is happening when they get here. You were generous in your list. Mack swept the Ol year of 2001 and what does he have to show for it? I will give Mack credit for accountability though. He said "It's my fault. I shouldn't have scheduled this game." WTF!?!??!
He accepts responsibility then does nothing. I'm tired of the broken record. I will not watch the Rice or Tulane game. I'll be back for the KSU game.
Great point and saly enough, I will be right there with you. I think we are going to lose what should have and could have been the best thing ever for our program. Mack Brown. I fear what happens the day Mack is not showing up at the doors to recruit. Not since Royal have we had this level of depth and quality. Recruiting does matter. I remember the days where most people were not wearing the colors. I love the fact we go to games now and see mostly orange and white! That is someting I noticed Mack had a part in and that has also restored a lot of the pride and support in The University. The kids around the state see everyone wear Horns gear and then realize they don't have to go to Miami to be noticed. But right now, he is simply making us look like a soft school and team who can never live up to expectations or win the games that matter most. If he does not change his ways or his staff, he must go before The University of Texas becomes a second tier school...like the aggy.
Are you really saying Mock didn't play well. Yes I miss Chris Simms, if he was in, he would have thrown three interceptions and I would have been put out of misery a lot earlier.
I am not concerned because if we hire the right coach, he can step in and our recruiting will not suffer. Mack Brown is not the only coach who is a good recruiter. Some can recruit and coach like Bob Stoops. Our school is located in the most fertile ground for recruiting. I think it is too late. Longhorn fans are the only ones who don't realize we are soft, we are embarrassing, we are overrated, and we are a second tier program. We are pretenders for the title ever year. The sooner the people in power realize that this program has peaked under Mack Brown, the sooner we can get a real coach. Mack Brown wins a lot of games but he doesn't win any games of significance. UT last won a conference in 1996 and that was our last BCS bowl appearance. Aggy won a title more recently. The pressure is on him to beat OU and to win the Big 12 this year. If he does not, how many more mulligans are you going to give him? This is his 6th year and we still choke games we should win. Not only choke but severely outcoached and outplayed.
...and the sad thing is I can't see anything that this staff can do to correct this. If we have no faith in them, imagine what players like Roy think about him? More importantly guys like Rod Wright, D.J. , Vince and other core players of for next year and beyond, how much faith do they have in him? As long as Mack has been at Texas, he has had the full support from his players and that has resulted in this. How will Texas look when the players quit on him or no longer have faith in him?
Someone on Hornfans posted he talked to Vince on 6th after the game. It could be bogus and therefore was deleted, but he said Vince was upset that he didn't get any PT. Vince said he would transfer if the coaching staff didn't get its act together. If Vince leaves, it will put a dent in Mack's crutch (recruiting). What will Mack do then.
That is exactly what I have been saying. Mack has certainly raised the recruiting bar, however, i fwe continue to get beat while getting the best talent, we will be in a worse hole than we were in after Mackovic. If we start losing recruits and the recruiting battle, we are toast! The recruiting playing field is starting to even out and we have not been head and shoulders above the other schools. Soon we will be fighting much harder to land recruits.
I posted these disturbing Mack Brown quotes in the other thread: On if Texas played well ... "I really do think so if we didn't give up those plays. They had seven explosive plays and that's way too many. We played very well a lot of the time in some areas and when you lose, nobody recognizes that." On what happens the day after the game ... "I have met with each side of the ball this morning. After a loss you're too critical because you're never as good as you looked after a 66-7 win, and you're never as bad as you looked after a 38-28 loss." On the positive performances ... "A lot of guys played very well. It's just that when we give up some big plays and get beat, we don't recognize them." mduke's sig comes to mind. We need a new coach......
OK, here's a question, let's say a downtrodden UT team drops the game to K-state and then somehow manages to upset Oklahoma, (not likely but possible), who takes the game a little bit less seriously than in years past, as Texas is barely even ranked at this point, and it is a repeat of their fumblings against Ok State and A&M from years past. Is mack redeemed in the eyes of the horns around here or does it even matter anymore?
If we beat OU, then all is temporarily forgiven....until we drop one in Stillwater. But then again, IF my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle. We have ZERO chance of beating a Bob Stoops team under our current regime. In the past, our talent may have given Texas a chance. However, OU has recruited equal or better talent at almost every position. The Horns are f*cked come October 11, and I'll be in the Cotton Bowl soaking in every GD second of it, just like I have the last three years.
I want someone to accept responsibility for this crap. UT lays an egg every year. Since Mack said he is accountable and will not make any changes, it is his head that should roll. It will happen again you can count on it. A&M, Okie St., and Tech can't wait to play us. If we beat OU, we better be playing for the Big 12 title in December.
I for one, hope it doesn't matter. Beating OU would be nice, but to be realistic, losing this game and other big conference games would be better off for the university because it will force UT to act sooner rather than later (to solve this cancer that is their coaching staff.) I have zero faith in this coaching staff.