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Texas A&M-Will they have a shot at the Big 12 Title next year?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by RocketFan85, Dec 6, 2002.

  1. haven

    haven Member

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    Lots, and lots, and lots of winning is where it's got us. People forget how hard winning an MNC is. UT's been the winningest program in the nation over the last 4 years, I believe.

    I'm very happy with the state of the program. Some day, it'll break our way. Brown might be an average gameday coach... but he more than compensates through recruiting.

    Your expectations are too damned high if 10-2 isn't good enough. Especially since either of those games could have gone the other way.
     
  2. Major

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    Lots, and lots, and lots of winning is where it's got us. People forget how hard winning an MNC is.

    Big 12 titles shouldn't be that hard.

    Your expectations are too damned high if 10-2 isn't good enough. Especially since either of those games could have gone the other way.

    Your expectations are too low if no big 12 titles are good enough, in my opinion. This thread wasn't about winning games but winning titles. I don't expect A&M to be in the running for a national title, but they'll certainly be in the picture for a B12 Title.
     
  3. Puedlfor

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    Whoa now - bot OU and KSU are able to raid JUCOs for tremendous amounts of talent, that's not a really good comparison. Except for McNeal - the cupboard is pretty bare on both sides of the ball.
     
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    Incidentally, anyone who "thinks" TAMU will beat UT next year is delusional. You can hope... you can want... but you shouldn't "think" that will happen yet, Rocketfan. Not when you've just been humiliatingly crushed by a team with tremendous advantages in personel. That's homerism at its worst.

    Is that really any different than anyone "thinking" UT would beat OU the last 2 years?
     
  5. RocketFan85

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    It is funny to hear TU fans say they have the best recruiting class every year. Well where has it gotten you? It all comes down to Coaching and Dennis Franchione is the #2 coach in the Big 12 now. Only Bob Stoops is bettr imo, Mack Brown can recruit but he is not that good of a coach. He is out coached in the big games all the time. Great coaches make good players into great ones, and that is what Franchione is going to do at A&M. Like it or not here come the Aggies!
     
  6. Puedlfor

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    We've won 4 out of the last 5 versus y'all, the last one being by 30pts. We've also got a chance to finish in the top ten. And we'll consider that a dissapointing season. We also have a winning record at home, can y'all say that?


    I take it you did not watch the Alabama games vs Georgia and Auburn?
     
  7. RIET

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    The only way the a$M returns back to its winning ways is to employ the same method that got them there in the first place.

    Seriously, without years of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, a$m would never have gotten as far as they did.

    As the residual $$$ left, RC was screwed with the same nothing product to sell as his predecessors.

    Austin vs College Station.

    Yeah a$m has the bonfire and all those cowhick traditions. They may attract the 18 year old WASP from the burbs, but they don't get the inner city kids too excited.

    Throw is some Jackie Sherrill like $$$$ and now we''re talking
     
  8. RocketFan85

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    Yea, TU has won 4 of the last 5, but what is your record against equal teams? Like Oklahoma, I'm pretty sure ya'll have drop 3 in a row to them. Atleast the Aggies play hard against the Sonners and won this year, and lost by 4 points in 2000 when they went 13-0. Also what is the Longhorns record in bowl games? I pretty sure ya'll flop in those too. Even with Franchione lossing to Aubrun 17-7, Georgia 27-25, and Oklahoma 37-27 it is not like he got blown away by any team this year.
     
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    Thank you for speaking the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
     
  10. Puedlfor

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    Texas A&M is not Oklahoma.

    Pot, meet the Kettle. Your only bowl win in the past few years has been the galleryfurniture.com bowl. Besides, its better to flop in a bowl, than not go to one at all.
     
  11. Refman

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    You are a bigot and a moron. Cowhick? Nice dude. Fact is..statements like that show your bias and prove you to be a monumental jackass.
     
  12. Puedlfor

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    Are you denying that A&M built its success on a system of bribing high school athletes to come to College Station?
     
  13. RIET

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    Im just telling the truth. Have you ever seen any african americans at the bonfire?

    Ive been there several times when I had friends at a$m.

    Texas A$M is one of the most conservative colleges in the United States. There is nothing that would attract African American kids to that school.

    The only reason they were able to attract the inner city kids in the late 70's early 80's was $$$.

    Eric Dickerson and his trans am - until SMU offered him more.

    Next time you go to Kyle Field, search the stands and see how many minorities are there.

    Here are the Bowl Records for A$M in the past 5 years:

    Jan. 1, 1998 Cotton Bowl #5 UCLA 29, #19 Texas A&M 23
    Jan. 1, 1999 Sugar Bowl #3 Ohio State 24, #8 Texas A&M 14
    Dec. 28, 1999 Alamo Bowl #13 Penn State 24, #13 Texas A&M 0
    Dec. 31, 2000 Independence Bowl Mississippi State 43, Texas A&M 41
    Dec. 28, 2001 galleryfurniture.com Bowl Texas A&M 28, TCU 9
     
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    Well we sure beat the hell out of'em this year.
     
  15. Refman

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    Tell me who was bribed into coming to A&M since Jackie's departure in 1988? Keep in mind that Greg Hill wasn't given that "job" until the end of his sophomore season.

    If you want to declare a system of bribery...I will expect you to bring documented, verifiable proof. Don't rely on something 15 yeras old either...that won't cut it for games after 1992...and we won quite a few after that against Texas.
     
  16. Refman

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    Plenty. I went to A&M for 5 years. I knew plenty...had plenty in my classes...up to and including the African-American yell leader. So not only are they there...they win University wide elections. Idiot.

    You must have been too drunk to notice. With your views and demeanor...I'm amazed you have any friends at all...much less any at A&M.

    And that meant something about the games in the mid 1990s exactly how, genius?

    There are plenty. I have been going to Kyle Field since 1991...I know the makeup of the crowd. I love it how you've been somewhere like 3 times and proclaim to be an expert on it.

    I've been to Austin 3 times and I saw a LOT of gays. Does that mean that all males at Texas are gay? :rolleyes:
     
  17. haven

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    Refman:

    I understand being defensive... but come on, do you honestly believe there isn't a higher % of racists in college station than in Austin?
     
  18. Puedlfor

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    If by "quite a few", you mean four. Then yes, yes you did win quite a few.

    A&M built its reputation by bribing athletes to come play for them. With these bribed athletes, A&M actually started winning games, and began to gain a profile around the nation. They leveraged this increased profile into some recruiting success, and gained some success in bowls, however it was at this time that the best talent in Texas started leaving to places like Notre Dame, Ohio St, Michigan and the Florida schools.

    A&M may have had success against a lackluster Texas team in this time frame, but they and the Southwest Conference as a whole slipped into national irrelevancy. So yes, you did stop the massive cheating after Jackie left, but the cheating is what gave A&M the impetus to any success it had in the early 90s. After Texas and Oklahoma both returned to prominence, A&M quickly slipped back to the place they have occupied for much of their history. At least until they start cheating again.


    Upsets happen.
     
  19. RIET

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    Refman,

    the Editorial cartoon that ran in the Batallion last year and its reactions is a perfect example of hospitality at aggie land.

    When asked about the cartoon, most people were outraged except of course the student body who did not feel the cartoon was offensive at all.

    Of course when the Black Students Association tried to blow the lid of the issue, RC Slocum pleaded not to protest because it would hurt recruiting.

    If you feel that african american students are dying to go to one of the most conservative schools in the nation, I would beg to differ.

    90% of african americans vot democratic - there's a reason for that.
     
  20. gr8-1

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    Blake was actually a good recruiter. In hindsight, that OU team was pretty loaded, especially on defense.
     

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