OU and TX have publicly said they have no interest in the SEC due to the academics (and to a lesser extent, recruiting ethics).
See that's revisionist histroy. Dragged back in for a ruse? How about they committed to stay because they saw media dollars from FOX they didn't dream they'd get? No one was in the dark about there being a LHN. It's no surprise One line? Sure. They could change that from week to week. The Ags sing more about the Longhorns in their fight song than they sing about the Ags....including the very tune to the Eyes of Texas. For those who don't know, here are the lyrics: Hullabaloo, Caneck! Caneck! Hullabaloo, Caneck! Caneck! Good-bye to Texas University So long to the Orange and the White Good luck to the dear old Texas Aggies They are the boys that show the real old fight "The eyes of Texas are upon you..." That is the song they sing so well So good-bye to Texas University We're going to beat you all to-- Chig-gar-roo-gar-rem Chig-gar-roo-gar-rem Rough Tough! Real Stuff! Texas A & M! Saw Varsity's horns off! Saw Varsity's horns off! Saw Varsity's horns off! SHORT! Ay! Varsity's horns are sawed off! Varsity's horns are sawed off! Varsity's horns are sawed off! SHORT! Ayyyyyy! There's more in there about UT than there is about A&M. We'll see...but read what you posted and what I just quoted, above, again and pretend this all isn't about being butt-hurt. Say it with a straight face if you can.
The reason this is the best thing for A&M is because of Texas and the LHN. If Texas had not tried to control the conference and actually worked towards strengthening the conference (like other tier 1 teams in other conferences), Nebraska and CU wouldn't have left, the LHN would not have excluded them from a conference network, and the Big XII would be in a much better negotiating position when Tier 1 rights are due for negotiation in a few years. Is it in A&M's best interest to stay in this conference? Hell no! We have better options and we are going to do what is best for us. If you or anyone else want to call it running away from Texas, fine. But in reality, we are just moving to safety before the Titanic sinks led by captain Bevo.
Whenever people say this, I wonder if anyone realizes that A&M is in the official Texas fight song too? Besides which, both sides say bye to each other in their fight songs, which seems even more fitting now. I imagine they are. The problem is that its hard to find teams interested in joining a conference when you're not willing to give them equal revenues or equal say, and when everyone else is trying to jump ship from it. If the Big12 wants non-BCS conference schools, that's not a problem. But if they are trying to get a-level schools, they've got a problem. If the 4 superconference model does ultimately evolve over the coming years, there's a pretty decent chance the Big12 will not exist. So if you're a member of a major conference now, you have no real incentive to leave and possibly get left in Mizzou's position in 5 years. There are currently something like 66 programs in the major conferences, plus ND and BYU as major independents. There are only 64 spots in a 4 super conference model, and those extra programs are probably Big12 or BigEast teams being left out. To make that model work, the Pac12 has to add 4 teams, likely from the Big12. The ACC adds 4 teams, likely from the BigEast. The SEC and Big10 can raid both the Big12 and BigEast, thanks to geography. The BigEast and Big12 are the vulnerable ones - which is why Pitt, for example, is one of the teams being talked about. That's a financial upgrade for them without a stability downgrade. But no ACC/SEC/PAC12/BIG10 team is going to leave the stability they have.
TAMU was never in danger of paying that much money. Not getting its earnings this year is pretty damn steep IMO.
You are all way off topic, talking about fight songs written by people in a world that died long ago... this is equal to making fun of a schools colors. Who cares what the song is? None of this matters, as many have said we are not tied to you anymore, we are going our separate ways, see you guys on the other side its been real. If horns and aggies want to blame someone blame Dan Bebe and the Big 12.
only until this discussion did Aggie fans stop being about tradition. there's probably not a fan base in all of college sports more obsessed with tradition. i'm not making fun of the school song...i'm just suggesting the song is entirely out of place, now.
OK Max, read everything you've posted in this entire thread and pretend your opinions don't stem from the place that all Baylor fan's opinions stem from. That is the fact that you will be nobody when the Big XII dies because YOU'RE STILL BAYLOR and there is nothing you can do to change that. Like I said, more power to the Longhorns in doing what they want with the LHN if the Big XII allows it. But to act like what they chose to do (not just with the LHN, but with everything leading up to NU leaving) has nothing to do with A&M and NU finding better options for themselves is ridiculous. Enjoy the MWC!
You use phrases like "butt hurt" and its... childish. This was a serious decision made by several people. It wasn't an emotional decision, it was a rational one. This is about what the Big 12 has become and what the SEC can offer. If you people really think spite is the reason TAMU is switching conferences y'all are just... kids man. Y'all are kids. Which is why I don't get the allegiance so many people seem to have towards the Big 12. The Big 12 has been reactionary since day one. First, Colorado & Nebraska get poached. UT has to start flirting with the Big 10 to even get anything in motion. Then, its not until the Pac 10 prepares to take half the conference that anyone does anything? Its pathetic enough there were no plans for a network until after UT's threats, its pathetic that by the time they did plan one, they had to insert ridiculous rules like the allowance of indie-networks... The dust has cleared. We know who the strong conferences are now. The Big 12 is a 1-man show. UT is BIGGER than the Big 12. That's a joke. Conference affiliation is about mutually beneficial partnerships. The Big 12 is the wild west, people are getting murdered and no ones going to jail.
what in that discussion had ANYTHING to do with BU. i've advocated that BU should be playing in a lesser conference for quite a while now....that I was tired of going to games knowing the outcome before they were played. TCU did just fine with that. but that has zilch to do with what i posted...which was entirely in response to the make-believe that this whole thing for Ags isn't ultimately a reaction to the $$$ that the Longhorns are geting from LHN that not a school in the country would dare turn down....and which we all knew was coming when everyone signed on to the new FOX deal last summer. i'm just tired of the "it's TX's fault!!" routine.
The LHN network was not a surprise, the fact that Texas was secretly planning with ESPN on having conference games on the LHN and the conference was going to allow it? A surprise. The fact that the Big XII was going to allow Texas to exclude itself from any future Big XII network (a fact that was only discovered because of a FOIA request to view the contract after the Fox deal was signed)? A surprise. I'm fine with those things happening. Texas made that move, and now A&M is making this move to better itself. Enjoy the MWC!
i know, tradition doesn't matter to aggies right? that's why instead of cheerleaders, young men in military garb grab their crotch and defend the playing surface of their field with swords. i'm pretty sure you'll be getting rid of the 12th man and changing Reville's name to Spot, next.
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This is bloody violent football... and you're bringing up songs? This is bloody violent football... and you want women on the field? This is about football. And money. And... you know, real stuff, stuff that matters. Not pee-pee games.
i love it i just think the irony is super rich and deep when aggie fans, of all people, are talking about how "100 year old songs" don't matter and tradition is worthless. the last people in the world i thought i'd hear that from.
Actually if you go back and look many are trying to blame the big 12 not UT I will make you a deal if you can find in any post by Ziggy or myself where we said this was UT fault then you win. Why do horns fans not view this as Big 12 fault?
is this the opening verse of a U2 song? what's happening here? sounds like their earlier stuff. i really liked their progression into Joshua Tree.
