No, you are not a lawyer. But you don't need to be a lawyer to know a state can not hold you hostage. Stop fear mongering.
@rocketsjudoka This isn't going to fly but sooner or later a case with show up at the SC https://www.kob.com/news/health/mis...d-based-on-a-conservative-groups-sting-video/ ST. LOUIS (AP) — Missouri’s attorney general filed a lawsuit Thursday accusing Planned Parenthood of illegally taking minors into Kansas to obtain abortions without parental consent, basing the allegation on a video from a conservative group that has promoted false claims on other issues. Republican Attorney General Andrew Bailey’s lawsuit accuses Kansas City, Missouri-based Planned Parenthood Great Plains of violating Missouri law, which makes it illegal to “intentionally cause, aid, or assist a minor to obtain an abortion” without consent from a parent or guardian. The lawsuit filed in state district court in Columbia, Missouri, asks the court to stop Planned Parenthood from engaging in the conduct it alleges. Bailey’s lawsuit provides no evidence of the actions alleged outside of a hidden camera video from a conservative group, Project Veritas. The video is of a conversation between Planned Parenthood employees and someone impersonating someone seeking an abortion for a fictitious 13-year-old. Planned Parenthood Great Plains President and CEO Emily Wales said the lawsuit is based on false information. She said in a statement that Planned Parenthood does not provide any form of transportation for patients. Besides, she said, Kansas law requires minor patients seeking abortion services to have parental consent or to show an order from a Kansas judge authorizing it.
No, but reading instead of assuming will make you seem less foolish https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/526/489/ This type of law implicates the right to travel, which is one of the fundamental rights protected by the Constitution. As a result, strict scrutiny rather than rational basis or intermediate scrutiny is the appropriate level of review. As established by the Slaughter-House Cases (1872), the textual source for the right to travel may be found in the Privileges and Immunities Clause, which ensures that new citizens of a state have the same privileges and immunities as long-standing citizens of the state. All of the citizens of the United States are protected under this clause through their federal citizenship, and states must establish a compelling interest to justify restricting the right to travel. They also must show that they have chosen a narrowly tailored means to achieve that interest. The California law is a penalty based on a discriminatory distinction between new and long-standing citizens. There appears to be no compelling interest that justifies it, since it is unclear that people move to this state to take advantage of its generous welfare benefits.
Correct me if I am wrong, but the question was "Would you force your wife or daughter to carry the baby of their rapist if the law approved abortions for victims of rape?" You said you would take them to another state. This means if it was LEGAL for them to abort their rapists fetus you would take your wife or daughter to a state that did not allow them to have an abortion. Did I interpret your answer incorrectly? Did you interpret the question incorrectly?
This is my recommendation. If a state is releasing murders onto the street, move. If a state is allowing people to beat up the cops and do nothing about it, move If a state allows people to rob people and stores with no accountability, move If a state refuses to deal with rampant rapist and hold its citizens hostage, move The United States has one of the most diverse offerings for a person yet people like yourself are never happy about anything. Your little ego thinks you have the solution for everything.
I am not going to answer a stupid misogynistic question. Nobody owns anyone so therefore nobody can force anyone to do anything. So you can derive that I would not force my wife or daughter to do anything. This isn't the Islamic jihadis middle east.
What state allows slavery? Or is this a pathetic red herring attempt in trying to introduce slavery into the conversation so you can 'gotcha' me into being a racist? Hitler comparison in 3...2...1...
Your logic, using 'if it's bad, move,' to justify victimizing rape victims, is pathetically insensitive to basic human rights. I'm highlighting just how reprehensible that perspective is.
There are plenty of politicians who have been pushing for murder charges for anyone getting an abortion the last couple of years, regardless of whether it's from rape or if a woman's health is in jeopardy. It's even more sickening when you have married men but claim to be the Christian Conservatives, but can't keep it in their own pants, telling a woman what they can and can't do legally. Guys like Trump, Ken Paxton, Matt Gaetz, and the rest are all hypocrites touting that Conservative Christian sword. Then you have this guy..... A Texas lawmaker has filed a bill that would abolish and criminalize abortions, leaving women and physicians who perform the procedure to face criminal charges that could carry the death penalty. The legislation, filed Tuesday by state Rep. Bryan Slaton, does not include exceptions for rape or incest. Slaton, a married father and prominent anti-LGBTQ lawmaker who has described drag performers as “perverted adults,” and portrayed himself as a “family values” conservative. Two years later the Texas House expelled the "family values" conservative by a unanimous vote following an investigation that determined the Royse City Republican had engaged in inappropriate sexual conduct with an aide. Slaton’s expulsion followed an almost monthlong examination by the House General Investigating Committee after receiving complaints of Slaton's behavior from three Capitol employees and four representatives. On Saturday, the committee released a 16-page report detailing actions taken by Slaton, 45, in furnishing the young woman with large amounts of alcohol before the April 1 encounter and recommending that Slaton be expelled from the House. https://www.texastribune.org/2023/05/09/bryan-slaton-expel-house-vote/
Maybe I am confused. What laws exactly? I am assuming you are referring to women traveling out of state for abortions. There are no laws that I am aware of.
If I interpret that correctly the case isn't against traveling but regarding a minor getting an abortion without parental consent. IN that case the locality doesn't seem to matter just that the MO AG is saying that MO law was broken.
Guys like this won't stop pushing..... These male politicians are pushing for women who receive abortions to be punished with prison time - Wed September 21, 2022 Under a bill they promoted, pregnant people could face murder charges even if they were raped or doctors determined the procedure was needed to save their own life. This year, three male lawmakers from Indiana attempted to wipe out existing abortion regulations and change the state’s criminal statutes to apply at the time of fertilization. In Texas, five male lawmakers authored a bill last year that would have made getting an abortion punishable by the death penalty if it had gone into law. A state representative in Arizona introduced legislation that included homicide charges — saying in a Facebook video that anyone who undergoes an abortion deserves to “spend some time” in the Arizona “penal system.” And a male Kansas lawmaker proposed a bill that would amend the state’s constitution to allow abortion laws to pass without an exception for the life of the mother. https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/20/politics/abortion-bans-murder-charges-invs/index.html
More extremism against women.... S.C. Republicans propose bill that could subject women who have abortions to the death penalty Those convicted of murder in South Carolina can face the death penalty or a minimum of 30 years in prison. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...bject-women-abortions-death-penalty-rcna75060 Missouri lawmakers propose allowing homicide charges for women who have abortions https://apnews.com/article/abortion-homicide-missouri-legislation-e192f15396b4cd82e593819c2692cd56
You need to stop trying to pidgeoning me into a stance that I have no authority to make. Men need to take a back seat in this discussion. This is what a proper civilization would do.
A law was referenced in this very thread. https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/so...t-texas-county-to-enact--abortion-travel-ban- " LUBBOCK COUNTY, Texas — Lubbock County commissioners on Monday approved an ordinance that will ban pregnant women from traveling through unincorporated parts of the county in order to obtain an abortion in another state. What You Need To Know Lubbock County on Monday became the fourth Texas county to enact a so-called "abortion travel ban" The ordinance prohibits pregnant women from traveling through unincorporated parts of the county in order to seek an abortion in another state The ordinance can only be enforced by private citizens who file lawsuits against people assisting pregnant Texans who are seeking an abortion. It will not penalize pregnant women Proponents of the ordinance framed it as a measure to prevent “abortion trafficking,” suggesting that pregnant women are being transported to other state against their will Lubbock is the fourth Texas county to enact such a ban and is the largest. The 2020 census placed the county’s population at just over 310,000. The other Texas counties that passed similar ordinances are Cochran, Goliad and Mitchell. Those are small, rural counties."
