2 out of 3 rapes are not reported (for various reasons). The victims endure their suffering in silence, often choosing to abort in silence as well. Now, they bear even more pain in silence. Here is the study that these articles wrote about. Many US women report experiencing sexual violence, and many seek abortion for rape-related pregnancies.1 Following the US Supreme Court’s 2022 Dobbs v Jackson Women’s Health Organization (Dobbs) decision overturning Roe v Wade, 14 states have outlawed abortion at any gestational duration.2 Although 5 of these states allow exceptions for rape-related pregnancies, stringent gestational duration limits apply, and survivors must report the rape to law enforcement, a requirement likely to disqualify most survivors of rape, of whom only 21% report their rape to police.3
Yeah, those numbers are depressing. It'll be harder for the defense to argue the lack of evidence (rape kit). Stifling laws about duration limits should be changed or made light. Women in red states should be aware of the world they're voting in. I bet half are stuck up their asses about some weird religious justification, but the other half can't assume or it'll be fine by hoping a judge(s) or the president will bail them out. Some agency and urgency is needed. We need some changes at all levels, with or without draconian laws forced upon victims.
It doesn't even matter if he has kids. It's the fact that he is trying to fabricate some story that liberals are parading random numbers to attempt to sell the public on making abortion legal. Somehow he came to the conclusion that pro-abortion advocates believe that making abortion legal will reduce the number of sexual assault cases (rape). Like who the **** said that? Maybe he talked to some idiot on the street that believes that but nobody is saying that this is the case. Even the article that was quoted in the OP, a case wasn't made that abortion should be made legal to reduce rape. Rape has always been an issue in this country. It's always been a big problem. Maybe we don't talk about it enough, but it's always been a ****ing problem. I'm convinced he was just trying to play devil's advocate here and he fabricated something to attempt to argue with the rest of us.
That is not what I said. I am mocking the article. Ultimately what I am saying is the 26k number is off the charts, likely vastly over inflated and the pro abortionist who are using this 'study' are pretty shitty to use rape victims as some type of political pawn. And if that 26k number is in the ball park, we need a serious discussion about this rape epidemic. And as we are allowed in this thread to pick and choose our googled data, rapes that end up in pregnancies is about 5% of all rapes. The math is very simple. 26,000 * 20 = 520,000 people have been raped in the last 16 months. Do you believe half a million women in Texas have been raped in the last 16 months? Do you really think allowing abortions is going to some how make those other 475,000 women whole? This is politically weaponizing rape victims and its disgusting. Even the original study states that number is likely not right. But why read the article when you can just pull some bullshit number from ABC.
Would you force your wife or daughter to carry the baby of their rapist if the law approved abortions for victims of rape?
It’s an estimate based on data and statistics. It’s not BS; it’s from the study. The point of these articles is to underscore the uncomfortable truth that thousands of girls and women, who are rape victims, face additional victimization from Republicans insisting on forcing them to carry to term. This highlights the impact of religious ideology and the disregard for rape victims by those who adhere to these ideologies.
My I understanding is that many rapes are not reported because in many cases the perpetrators is someone they know and often someone in a position of power over them. They don’t report because of fear or retribution and/or shame. The situations have now in states like Texas is that a women raped and impregnated no long has control over her body and has to carry the rapist child. It’s basically they have to live the Scarlet Letter.
So you aren't opposed to abortion for moral or ethical reasons. But you might still be breaking the law. States, counties, and cities appear to be trying to criminalize traveling elsewhere to get that abortion for your wife or daughter. After pause, this Texas city is set to reconsider banning travel to access an abortion A handful of local governments have already put the legally dubious bans in place. The news that Amarillo will take the issue up again comes shortly after a Dallas woman left the state for an abortion after losing a legal battle to obtain one here. https://www.texastribune.org/2023/12/13/abortion-travel-ban-amarillo-texas/ Lubbock County becomes biggest Texas county to enact ‘abortion travel ban’ https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/so...t-texas-county-to-enact--abortion-travel-ban- Missouri wants to stop out-of-state abortions.Other states could follow. The first-of-its-kind proposal from Missouri lawmakers would allow private citizens to sue anyone who helps a Missouri resident have an abortion. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/19/travel-abortion-law-missouri-00018539
Perhaps the lawyers here could answer this but how are laws that punish someone traveling to another state Constitutional? Isn’t freedom of movement a right and if someone is pregnant and leaves the state for whatever reason that is still their right?
Looks like red states are going to have a new industry: pregnancy prisons. Hat tip, I guess. Y'all Qaeda in full effect.
This is a two year old article... it would be interesting in light of the far right turn of the ussc and some states having success with anti-choice laws if this is more clear. Perhaps someone with legal background can chime in... Can states punish women for traveling out of state to get an abortion? No state has yet enacted a law to ban this travel. But it has been attempted. What constitutional or legal issues could support abortion travel laws? For those who would support bans against traveling out of state for an abortion, there is “pretty clear” precedent for states being able to enforce laws beyond their boundaries, such as the 1941 ruling in Skiriotes v. Florida, said Kermit Roosevelt, a University of Pennsylvania law professor. And under the 1985 Supreme Court decision Phillips Petroleum Co. v. Shutts, states are able to apply civil laws to their citizens when they are in another state, Rosen said. There is also precedent for a state to “punish a crime committed by its citizens in another state, so long as the conduct is criminal in both states,” said Gabriel (Jack) Chin, a law professor at the University of California-Davis. If abortion was legal in the second state, the state passing the out-of-state abortion restriction might be on safer legal ground if it could demonstrate some form of harm to the state, he added. “State A could argue that, unlike traveling to engage in gambling or smoking mar1juana, an abortion has continuing effects in State A, namely, the death of a citizen or future citizen of the state,” Chin said. https://www.poynter.org/fact-checki...or-traveling-out-of-state-to-get-an-abortion/
I'm no lawyer, but a state government can restrict travel with a compelling justification. Saving children is a highly compelling interest for a state that recognizes embryonic personhood as law, as seen in Alabama where the AL Supreme Court has recently ruled that frozen embryos are considered children. And you also have this:
