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Texans V Broncos

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by BullFan, Aug 26, 2006.

  1. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Until Mario Williams actually kills a QB because he sacked him on every single passing play, I'm afraid it will always be like this. The next best thing to hope for would be Reggie Bush being decapitated by a Julius Peppers clothesline or Vince Young being too stupid to find his way to the stadium and ending up in the Cumberland River (note, I only want one of those two things to happen ;) ).
     
  2. codell

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    stop agreeing with me .......you are making me feel uncomfortable.
     
  3. Hey Now!

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    he threw it behind a guy who was double-covered. it was a horrible pass that's going to be intercepted cleanly 90% of the time.

    wow; we must have been watching different games. i see the same old, same old. i think carr is toast; undone by a gaggle of clowns who ruined him. looks like david klinger, which i predicted, like, three years ago.

    kubiak can coach the **** out of him, but carr's hearing footsteps in his head, and there's nothing kubiak can do about that. it'd be one thing to look good with no results, but he still looks rattled independent of learning a new system. compare him to how comfortable rosenfels looks. plays develop smoother, less harried, more time to find receivers.

    i think carr is fried.
     
  4. CometsWin

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    How about until he actually sacks a quarterback on one play?
     
  5. CometsWin

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    I wouldn't say 100% sure, but I'd say it's less likely than likely at this point. Williams hasn't even shown a glimpse of being that type of player but the coaches seem to be using him in a variety of ways so far so maybe that's playing a role in how he's looked. I'm not sure.
     
  6. codell

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    he doesn't have to sack a quarterback to be effective (see the St. Louis game)
     
  7. codell

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    see the St. Louis game
     
  8. gunn

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    He pretty much looked like trash the whole game. The guy attempted one maybe two passes longer than 15 yards and completed none. The interception he thew wasn't deflected by a Denver player. It was a terrible pass that was blistered off his running back at short range.

    Your suggestion that Carr outplayed Plummer is a joke? Right? If not, I seriously don't think we were watching the same game.
     
  9. rezdawg

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    You're on crack if you think that would be intercepted cleanly 90% of the time. It was a horrid throw...but it was also being blazed at 80 mph from 10 yards away...no way any linebacker has the hands to catch that pass cleanly...it was tipped, and thus intercepted. The pass also wasnt directly to the defender...it was right between Lundy and the linebacker...and thats why it got tipped. It was a horrible, horrible throw...but to say it would have been intercepted 90% of the time is laughable.

    We were watching the same game...you just choose to ignore the 15 minute stretch where Carr looked good.

    I agree that the first 20 minutes of the game were absolutely terrible due to Carr's inability to play anything like an NFL quarterback...but I also give credit where credit is due...he looked good for a few possessions before being taken out.
     
  10. Rocketman95

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    I'm not calling him Julius Peppers just yet. I actually understand that not all draft picks pan out and know that people shouldn't judge draft picks based on three preseason games. I freely admit that there's a chance Mario Williams could be a terrible pick. No one knows how it'll turn out yet. However, if ESPN's hyping him as the next Gayle Sayers, I feel pretty confident he won't be (see USC, greatest team outside Jesus and the 12 Apostles).
     
  11. CometsWin

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    You can get effective linemen in free agency. You don't use the number one pick on them though. I'm shocked at how little some of you expect out of an overall number one pick. My gosh.
     
  12. Rocketman95

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    This coming from someone hyping a guy who has had pretty much one good play in the preseason.
     
  13. codell

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    he wasn't just effective in St. Louis ...he had a stretch where he was dominant

    Im shocked at how much of you expect out of an overall number one pick with not even 3 full games under his belt
     
  14. ima_drummer2k

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    You can get an effective RB in free agency (or late in the draft) even easier than you can a lineman, especially when you're running the "any RB can gain 1500 yards per season" offense that Kubiak brought with him.
     
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    im going to ignore alot of these posts as they just frustrate me to no end about how critical some people can be.

    personally i dont see a big reason to be disapointed thus far. its preseason and they have played well for most of it...considering they hung par with the broncos, a team many to pick to win the AFC and be extremely competive in playoffs.
     
  16. rezdawg

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    Plummer had 4.4 yards per attempt...thats not good. Carr also threw for about 30 more yards than him as well.

    Sure, Carr had his issues...but tell me where Plummer looked better.

    Carr had 6 completions of 10 yards or more...with a high of 25 yards.
    Plummer had 4 completions of 10 yards or more...with a high of 19 yards.

    Also, Carr had 2 solid completions taken away by penalty.

    Anyways, just waiting to see how Plummer looked better...because while they were both in the game...the Texans offense had produced more than the Broncos. Maybe it was the fact that Plummer went 10/22? No, wait, that percentage sucks...
     
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  17. Hey Now!

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    whatever - you can't excuse his lone interception because whatever did and would happen, he made a terrible decision that he compounded with a terrible pass. do that enough over the course of an nfl game, and you'll be picked off plenty.

    when, at the end of the half? when denver was giving him throws underneath to help run the clock out because they knew kubiak had stupidly wasted a TO on a very early, and pointless, and, worst of all, incorrect challenge?

    it's his fifth season; i need to see more than that.
     
  18. gunn

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    You can pull all the stats that you would like, but my account was from actually watching the game. And I think that any rational person that did likewise would also come to notion that Carr sucked.
     
  19. rezdawg

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    I never once disagreed. It was a horrible pass...so horrible, that it wouldnt have been picked off if it didnt fly up 15 feet in the air...with another defender diving to snag it.

    Regardless of what Denver was doing...Carr was efficient with the offense and we were moving the chains.

    The first two possessions of the 3rd quarter, where the Broncos werent "giving" him anything, he went 6/8 for 74 yards. When is 6/8 for 74 yards ever bad? He looked good...gotta give him credit there...9.25 yards per attempt and 12.33 yards per completion.
     
  20. rezdawg

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    Sure, Carr sucked...but answer the original question...How did Plummer look better?
     

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