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Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by BullFan, Aug 26, 2006.

  1. MadMax

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    cone on..i'm not a carr hater. but seriously...no one is just talking about this one preseason game. they're not even just talking about this preseason in its entirety. they're talking about his career to date. there is no arguing that it's been disappointing, no matter what the reasons for that.
     
  2. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    But with a new regime, better line, and better WRs, shouldn't we wait until a real game before throwing him under the bus? And can we please stop the Sage slarving?
     
  3. Buck Turgidson

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    Our trainer in HS knew him from when he worked at UH. Came out to practice one day, got to run pass patterns with him at QB. Jeebus that guy had an arm, my hands were sore for a couple of days afterwards.
     
  4. MadMax

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    i'm not suggesting he shouldn't be the starter at this point. i'm just saying i'm not real encouraged by what i've seen so far.
     
  5. MadMax

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    i intercepted him once in a flag football tourney. :D (i had to share that, of course!!!)
     
  6. Buck Turgidson

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    Awesome.

    First pass he threw me - 7 yard out - ball hit me square in the chest before I saw it.
     
  7. Rocketman95

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    I'm not either, but we've seen time and time again, in every single sport, that the preseason really doesn't matter.
     
  8. MadMax

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    you're right. maybe it will be all different. i hope you're right!
     
  9. Rocketman95

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    Yeah, and I'm not directing that at you at all...too much. :)

    I definitely believe there should be a short leash if during the first two-three games he's showing what he shown during the preseason.
     
  10. Hey Now!

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    it mattered last year when they sucked donkey cocks and proceeded to suck donkey cocks once things counted.

    if carr's problems were rooted in his adjusting to a new system, that'd be one thing. but he's still locking in on one receiver, still rushing and looking completely uncomfortable in the pocket, still incapable of involving his WRs, still has no idea what a TE is, and worst of all, is still making poor decisions and leading the team nowhere.

    "the preseason doesn't count" implies everything in august is meaningless and that's patently false. wins and loses, yes; performance, however, most certainly counts. and carr looks like he's always looked. i don't see any improvement at all. do you? if so, what?
     
  11. UTweezer

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    the reality of it all comes down to this...

    1) Even if David car has a down year, he's going to get a hall pass, because "it's a new system"

    2) The 2007 season will be the "make it or break it" year.

    2) Unfortunately, we Texans fans will have to endure this guys suckage until the 2008 season.
     
  12. MadMax

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    i really don't think so. i really don't think kubiak will take that approach with carr.
     
  13. UTweezer

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    great. I'd like to see Quinn or even Kolb under center next year. Or better yet, "fill in the blank" under center
     
  14. Hey Now!

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    if carr is indeed toast, they're not going to start completely over with a rookie QB. my guess is that someone like... wait for it... jake plummer (likely out of job by this time next year) will be the QB.
     
  15. Rocketman95

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    But you see teams that seemingly play great or terrible in the preseason, only to have regular seasons that are the exact opposite. Do you think the Redskins will be the worst team in the NFL this season?

    He had 6 of his 15 completions to his WR. While that's not spectacular by any means, it's not that bad. He had one good ball where AJ couldn't make the catch and one outstanding pass that Moulds slowed down on. Had both of those gone for completions, it would've ended up a pretty decent night for Carr. I'm not convinced that last night was not scripted a certain way or that it was. It's all speculation at this point. If he does the same thing against Philly, I'll be right there with you.

    I don't think everything in August is meaningless, but I'm not ready to declare the season a disaster or throw Carr under the bus because of it. I'm not necessarily seeing much improvement other than him having more time because of the line, but there is definitely some improvement. I'm sorry, but after four years of being planted on the ground more than any one in that time span, I can completely understand his skittishness. It is definitely a concern and I think there's a chance that he's permanently shell-shocked. I just wish we could wait until the regular season before making that determination.
     
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    Preseason is nothing more than controlled scrimages, and a huge rip off for fans desperate to see football. There is another gear for the regular season. Winning and losing in preseason means little. Rookies are the only ones that play "all out." When the season starts we will see who is really good and who isn't. Even if the Texans looked great now, it means nothing, and conversely, what looks bad is equally meaningless. By October 1, the verdict will be in, if not before.
     
  17. pgabriel

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    its funny, i remember when people were saying the preseason didn't matter last season.

    no one is talking about wins and losses, in evaluating individual play, progress, the preseason is important in football.
     
  18. MadMax

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    how long before we rename Toro, Miles and retire Elway's jersey?
     
  19. MadMax

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    i was one of those people. i remember it quite well. i was dead wrong last season.
     
  20. Hey Now!

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    i'm not talking about the team; the team looks improved. carr does not.

    don't know/care about the redskins.

    honestly? this sounds like you're describing a rookie's debut. it's his fifth year.

    so the line's improved; but he hasn't. wasn't the line one of his excuses?

    why? does his skittishness not count in august? that's why i'm not the least bit encouraged.

    if he was playing with any poise, i'd be gung ho; he's not. the difference between him and rosenfels is jarring. and i don't mean results. screw results. i mean in their presence - watch how much more time it looks like rosenfels has compared to carr - he's more deliberate, more sure of himself, more aware of his surroundings. he just looks better.

    carr looks skittish and rushed and unsure of himself; he's locking in on his receivers; relying too much of his RBs... he's a mess.
     

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