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Texans Training Camp Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Jet Blast, Jul 24, 2014.

  1. Bobbythegreat

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    All of those Blaine Gabbert's and Jake Locker's out there for the taking and we just passed them by. It's sad really.
     
  2. Cannonball

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    I don't think it would've mattered. JAX still would've taken Bortles and if the Texans weren't willing to trade up a couple of spots for JFF or Bridgewater, then I doubt they would've taken either of them outright at #10.
     
  3. thedude077

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    Blake Bortles and Teddy Bridgewater and Johnny Manziel were nothing especial. Clowney>>> all those QB's. That draft class QB was nothing good. Wait for next year's QB draft class, that is worth taking.
     
  4. Cannonball

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    Well, I don't know how excited to be for the next class. If we can get Mariota or Winston, great. But guys like Hundley and Petty? Before he decided to go back to UCLA, Hundley was being projected as a 2nd rounder, way behind Manziel and Bridgewater and even Carr. I know that doesn't necessarily mean everything, but I find it hard to get excited about the prospects of drafting a guy who may have been the 5th QB drafted in this most recent draft.
     
  5. Hey Now!

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    Eh...not exactly....
    He was a 20-year old who announced his decision to return to school very early (mid-January), so he went through no offseason evaluation or scouting, no combine, no pro day... any declarative statements about his draft status in 2014 was wildly premature.
     
  6. Remii

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    Did the article say which two teams...??? Because if Rick Smith was one of those evaluators I would question it. Lol...
     
  7. Rocket River

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    My thing is this
    Ranking them 0 - 10

    If you got a 0 . . . when you get a chance to get a 2 . .you take a 2
    you don't hold on to the 0 until a 9 comes available

    You take a 2. . then a 4 . .then a 6 what ever to get to the 9/10

    but going in with the 0 . . .because the 5 was available at the draft pick position of a 3 . . . because you thought it cost too much . . is ridiculous
    take the 5 . . and build from there

    Rocket River
     
  8. Remii

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    The Texans still have Savage... Obviously O'Brien was high on him. That could be "the guy" _ maybe...
     
  9. Rocket River

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    Hope So . . ..
    Then again . . I hoped that TJ would amount to something at some point

    Rocket River
     
  10. J.R.

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    Tom #2 :grin:
     
  11. RockFanFirst

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    So...Belichick used a Jedi mind trick to get BOB to draft Savage? Nice.
     
  12. Cannonball

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    He was a 4th round pick. I wouldn't say "obviously". TJ Yates was a 5th round pick. Was Kubiak obviously high on him?
     
  13. Remii

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    The reason I say O'Brien was "obviously" high on Savage was because O'Brien did say there wasn't much separation between the quarterbacks and the Texans spent a 4th round pick on a guy who may have been there in the 6th or 7th round (Zach Mettenburger and Logan Thomas were still available at that point _ so more than likely Savage would have been too)...

    O'Brien had his shot at every QB in this draft but he picked Savage. He said he might draft 2 or 3 quarterbacks but decided to only take one and he reached early for him. So either O'Brien is obviously high on Savage _ or he's just obviously hi.

    Hopefully he'll put Savage in the game earlier this week so we can see what he can do.
     
  14. Cannonball

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    In hindsight, I take that to mean he wasn't high on Manziel, Bridgewater, or Carr rather than him being high on Savage. Instead of him thinking of all of them as 8s or 9s, he thought of all of them as 5s or 6s. Or to put it another way, the Texans didn't have first round grades (or even high 2nd round grades) on Manziel or Bridgewater. They were committed to not reaching for a QB so they didn't trade up for one of them. They didn't have a high 2nd round grade on Carr so they didn't take him at 2-1. They did have a 4th round grade on Savage so they were willing to spend a pick on a QB then. But that doesn't mean they didn't have higher grades on the QBs that went before him, just that they weren't graded as high as their actual draft position in the eyes of the Texans.

    That's a very skewed way of looking at things. That's like saying Kubes passed on most QBs in 2006, including Colin Kaepernick and Andy Dalton, but chose Yates in the 5th round so obviously he must've liked Yates better than Dalton or Kaepernick. Or that the Rams could've drafted Aaron Rodgers in 2005 but chose Ryan Fitzpatrick in the 7th round instead so they were obviously high on Fitz because they could've had any QB other than Alex Smith and they took Fitzpatrick. Of course, that's a ridiculous statement and the logic behind it is completely absurd and so is yours.
     
  15. ynelilvs99

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    So Obrien said today that Fitzpatrick is still #1 qb....
    does not bode well i dont think :(:(
     
  16. Fulgore

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    He meant the #1 qb to land him the #1 pick.
     
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  17. Bobbythegreat

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    I didn't expect them to pull the plug entirely after one pathetic preseason game, but he'd better bounce back this game or I could see it happening after 2 pathetic preseason games. Also, I'd hope he has a much shorter leash this game, if he comes out looking like he did in the first preseason game, yank him and put in Keenum to give him some burn with the 1's to see what he can do.
     
  18. Remii

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    That's a bunch of speculation you got going on there...Lol.

    Let me speculate... It could just be O'Brien didn't want Johnny, Teddy, Carr, and Jimmy G because all of those dudes are small and he had Savage ranked ahead of them because Savage is a big strong armed quarterback which is said to be what he likes.


    So you came up with all that other speculation about why O'Brien passed up on quarterbacks but couldn't remember that Kubiak already had a QB1 in Schaub. That's a tuurrble example.


    Why you mad bruh :grin:
     
  19. Raven

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    Do you really think the Texans are planning to tank for Mariota? Give me a break. You can bet that the last thing a newly minted NFL coach wants is to lead his team to the worst record in the league.
     
  20. Fulgore

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    No I don't think they will tank. I think they will be that bad. Have a shot at a very talented qb Winston/mariota and can actually compete in 2015.
     

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