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Texans sign Dan Orlovsky

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by JamesC, Feb 28, 2009.

  1. No Worries

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    Kubiak did wonders with David Carr.

    It is still early but ... Kubiak appears to have overpaid to get Schaub.

    Exceptional indeed. Not unless you consider Sage, whom he then traded for an unexceptional middle round pick. ;)
     
  2. Hey Now!

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    as i said above, kubiak inherited carr in the fifth year of a busted career. i don't saddle kubiak with carr's failure at all. he was a broken QB by 2006.

    that's a completely different issue. schaub was among the best 10-best QBs in football last year.

    do you think sage would have fetched a 4 three years ago? hell, had they dealt him last year, he (reportedly) would have landed us a 3. the guy was a career back-up when kubiak signed him and now you've got a super bowl contender thinking they can win with him... that's pretty impressive.
     
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    Pretty big disconnect here. If Minnesota traded for a QB that "they can win with ", I suspect that they would pay more dearly than a 4th round pick. Something here is overstated. I am just saying ...
     
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    for the 10 games he played (including some real stinkers to start last season).

    If Schaub continues to struggle staying healthy, the Texans lose on that trade. Instead of landing a QB, the Texans would have been better served landing an OL that can pass protect and then go after a starting QB. As is, the Texans are running the risk of turning Schaub into the next, beaten down David Carr.
     
  5. Hey Now!

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    point is, three years ago, before kubiak got a hold of him, minnesota never would have dealt a 4 for rosenfels.

    i think it's pretty fair value: he's 31, 32 years old and has never been a full-time starter... if cassel is worth a 2, rosenfels for a 4 seems about right.
     
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    no one is arguing this. not a single person. the point is while healthy, schaub under kubiak has been a very good - at times great - QB. same with rosenfels. so there's no reason to think kubiak can't have a smiliar impact on orlovsky.

    are you aware that of the 10 games schaub's missed, one was for food poisoning and 4 more were the result of late, illegal hits in which the defenders were fined by the NFL?

    schaub's been sacked 39 times in his two seasons here. carr topped that # in 4 of his 5 seasons - one year - in houston. the degree of abuse isn't even remotely close. there's no danger of schaub heading down carr's path.
     
  7. RunninRaven

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    Yeah, not to mention the critique with Carr was always that the abuse he received made him gun shy and hindered his development. Schaub is clearly already MUCH more developed as a QB than Carr ever managed. The only thing to be concerned about with him taking hits is an injury concern.
     
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    I've said it before, but I'd rather have the Utah quarterback, Brian Johnson than Pat White. He'll be a steal in the 5th or 6th round.
     
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    Kubiak's future here is tied to Schaub. No matter who the backup is, if Schaub goes down the Texans (and Kubiak) are in deep trouble. After last season, it was time for Sage to leave. Simple as that. Maybe they overpaid some for Orlovsky, but not that much. They can easily cut him after next season.

    I have no problem with this move at all. 3yrs/$9MM with a $2.4MM signing bonus is no big deal.
     

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