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Texans sign Brock Osweiler

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by J.R., Mar 9, 2016.

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Do you like the Brock Osweiler signing?

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  3. I abstain, courteously

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  1. Texanasiafan

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    Are you kidding me?

    Morey signed Lin and Asik and at that time the plan was clearly prepare to tank.

    Rick Smith and Bob signed Brock at this time clearly took a risk of both losing their jobs if indeed they will release Brock in two years while paying him top 10 qb money. This is an all in move for the decision maker.
     
  2. Texanasiafan

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  3. mick fry

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    I don't believe Smith's job is in any jeapordy regardless. Did you read how enamored McNair was with Smith when he signed Ozzy?
     
  4. Mr. Clutch

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    Yes, we McNair was there during the haggling. Rick did a heckuva job.
     
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    You're delusional if you really believe that. He didn't sign them to tank.
     
  7. J.R.

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    [rquoter]Some truth about the Brock Osweiler choice

    Most jaws are now picked up off floors from Denver to Houston, after a player no one is sure is a long-term quarterback answer was given a four-year, $72 million deal by Houston last week. But let’s survey the story and get down to the facts of why it happened, and what it really means:

    • Some people very close to Osweiler at midday Wednesday thought he was going to pick the Broncos. Most believer Osweiler had a mad-on against the team after getting benched for a hobbling Peyton Manning in Week 17, and so Osweiler was as good as gone when the season ended. “Not true,” said someone close to Osweiler. “I can’t speak for those in his family, but Brock was not mad at the Broncos over it.” (Nor should he have been, by the way. Osweiler’s performance in the second half of the season was both encouraging and very uneven. Manning deserved to get his job back at halftime of the last regular-season game.) Osweiler had to decide between Houston’s four-year, $72 million offer, with about $37 million guaranteed; and Denver’s four-year, $65 million offer, with about $29 million guaranteed. At one point around midday Wednesday, Osweiler asked agent Jimmy Sexton for some private time to think and decide. When he called Sexton back, Osweiler told him he wanted to go to Houston. This is not the mindset of man who knew he was out of Denver all along.

    • I’d probably have picked Denver over Houston, but there’s one huge mitigating factor. Houston has a very good front seven and otherwise an average team—at least now. Denver has an excellent defense, two very good receivers, and a mediocre offensive supporting cast. The Broncos are a better team, even with the recent defections. But if you’re Osweiler, and you’re realistic, you have to think there’s some doubt about whether you’re going to be an above-average NFL starter—which is how Houston is paying you. So the guarantee is significant. Very significant. If he busts after a year or two, he knows he has $8 million more locked in if he signs with Houston versus signing with Denver.

    • Houston did what a desperate team had to do. This is year 15 of the Texans. They thought they had a long-term passer with David Carr, and then with Matt Schaub. Neither panned out. The desperation turned to panic after the horror of the Brian Hoyer playoff performance in January. Paying the best quarterback in a thin free-agent quarterback market, in a year when there’s no sure passer where the Texans are drafting? The gamble on Osweiler is not stupid. It’s way too much money, of course, but the cap’s been skyrocketing in recent years, which allows the Texans to cushion their mistakes if indeed Osweiler is a bust. You have no chance to go all the way if you don’t have a quarterback. Houston now at least has a chance for the kind of quarterback who can win in January. A chance. That’s more than the Texans could have said last Tuesday.

    • Don’t blame Elway. No one knows how Osweiler will pan out. And especially with the hurt feelings inside the Broncos’ building when Osweiler wouldn’t return calls of coaches and the front office for a few days during crunch time … that didn’t go over well with a team that had been supportive of Osweiler for four years. I think Houston paying Osweiler is understandable, and I think Denver not paying him is probably more understandable. I get why Houston did it, but I would never have paid that freight either.

    • I doubt Osweiler will get much love on the field before Houston at Denver (which is on the schedule next fall). “I think the Houston Texans give me the best opportunity to be successful,” he said upon signing in Texas. Over the past four seasons Denver has the best record in football and has been to two Super Bowls; Houston is 33-34 and has won one playoff game. Osweiler might have been saying the politically correct thing in Houston. But aside from the fact that the quote seems nuts, it’s the kind of statement those in Denver heard and won’t forget.

    http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/03/13/howie-roseman-philadelphia-eagles-nfl-free-agency[/rquoter]
     
  8. conquistador#11

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    " Houston did what a desperate team had to do."

    that's where they're all wrong. Though hoyer truly is a horror show, had this opportunity to grab brock not presented itself, B.O.B would have no quarrel with trotting hoyer for another rodeo. It's not desperation. It's capitalizing on an Elway blunder and denver's salary cap woes. It was gangster by our front office.
     
  9. DieHard Rocket

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    Not a chance that Hoyer would have been handed the starting job again. It was all but mandated by Bob that Rick go out and get a QB, so there absolutely was a bit of desperation there. Not that I blame them. There are so little legitimately good QBs that come available every year that you have to take a chance at the position and hope for the best.
     
  10. ipaman

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    more of the same crap. texans over payed and elway is a god.
     
  11. vstexas09

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    what a ****ty piece...
     
  12. Two Sandwiches

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    Funny thing is, Peter King has always been a guy that promotes the Texans. I think that's faded now that Kubiak left, though.
     
  13. conquistador#11

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    could be but if brock isn't available, B.O.B isn't just going to get another qb just to get a qb to please bob. That's something that happens in Jerra world. the opportunity for brock had to be there. So I don't see it as desperate just lucky, right place right cap space time.
     
  14. HR Dept

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    From the article:

    Imo, this kills the criticisms of the contract that The Texans gave Osweiler. He literally has the median contract of the 32 highest paid QBs in a league that has 32 teams.
     
  15. mogrod

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    I wonder what the narrative would have been had he decided last week to stay with the Broncos.

    I doubt there would have been a ton of articles and posts on social media saying how bad a player he is or he's not worth the money. Granted, their final offer wasn't quite as much as the Texans', but it's still a huge salary raise and much more then their first offer.

    But, I have a feeling it would have been mostly ho-hum.... the heir-apparent young QB was being groomed to take over after Peyton, now it's his time and he's going to be paid accordingly.
     
  16. Hey Now!

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    I think this is a mostly fair assessment - but DeAndre Hopkins is better that Denver's two very good receivers and deserves mention. If I'm a QB, Hop is a difference-maker in my decision process, for sure. Also, having seen both, obviously, O'Brien is a *much* better coach than Kubiak, and that also bares mentioning.

    One more thing: as good as Denver's defense was, and likely is moving forward: it also played out of its mind in the postseason. A regression is likely; not a significant one - but any idea they'll replicate their postseason performance over the course of a 16-game schedule is, I think, unlikely.
     
  17. justtxyank

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    They did lose two key contributors on defense. Malik Jackson was an absolute beast on that defensive line and Trevathian played at an exceptional level for them. Those are hard guys to lose and replace.
     
  18. Two Sandwiches

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    Nailed it.

    Not to mention, Wade's defenses notoriously regress in the second year. I honestly don't think Denver's defense is much better than Houston's.
     
  19. Nimo

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    The Texan's line is better but the Broncos had better linebackers and secondary. Getting consistent pass rush from both OLB positions makes a huge difference. I'm expecting (hoping) a regression in the Broncos defense this year as well. But the Texans have got to improve the LB and safety positions. I wonder if Clowney or Mercilus are practicing on both sides of the line this off-season.
     
  20. Rocket River

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    Over Paid by 8 million???

    PPPHHHTTTTTT

    That's like paying 1.59 for gas when across the street it is 1.51
    and you only buy 10$ worth of gas any way . . . .
    in NFL terms. . .

    Rocket River
     

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