Texans schedule dictates a division title: Game by game predictions

Whether or not it was McNair's intent, I distinctly remember the "drafted him as the face of their franchise" bit being thrown around in the media with great regularity back in the day, and that label stuck with Carr until they mercifully let him walk.

 

of course; it's the nature of the position. but i don't think (beyond drafting him) that mcnair made any choices (in service to carr) that were detrimental to the team.

 

except giving him a ridiculous extention

 

The Steelers are really not that great at running the ball at this point. They were bad last week and I think they were in the bottom 3rd of the league in rushing last season. I am pretty concerned about the running game. Slaton was never held completely in check like this last season in back to back games.

 

which was defensible at the time and lasted all of one year - how was that detrimental to the team? were the 2-14 texans going to win more than 6 games in 2006 with a better qb? highly doubtful.

 

the titans ranked 2nd last year against the run; the jets 6th. this year, so far: 6th and 7th. those are two of the better run defenses in football.

 

it was unecessary, unwarrented, added unecessary salary, he would have been an unrestricted free agent, and he was coming off a statistically worse season than the one before.

but in particular to being worse for the franchise, it added uncessary/unwarranted salary

 

a starting QB is a necessity...

debatable. he was 26 and had enjoyed three years of natural, expected progression before he, and the entire team, tanked in 2005.

they had to pay *someone* to play QB; they're not cheap.

i'm sorry; as we all know now - carr had mentally checked out on football; perhaps he never had it, perhaps it as beaten out of it. but you don't throw a guy out for one bad season - especially a bad season that corresponds with a franchise-wide bad season. carr literally, i believe with one exception, progressed in every single statistical category each of his three years.

for a rookie qb on an expansion team (and pretty bad one at that, *especially* offensively), that's exactly what you want. it turned out to be a wrong decision - but assuming the one bad year is the fluke is a far more sensible course of action than determining the first three years of progression were the fluke.

again, starting qbs aren't cheap and if they were going to jettison carr, they needed one.

 

okay i made a mistake, didn't realize they had to act, the choice wasn't acting or not, it was two or three years, which they opted for the three

 

you can't make a decision in a vacuum, pgabriel. if you jettison your 26-year old starting qb, *someone* has to take the snaps.

the length of the extension is meaningless. he lasted a year. it was ultimately a harmless risk worth taking; it didn't set the franchise back.

 

Yes, but a QB doesnt have to take the snaps. Why not get Andre to run the Wildcat?

 

Okay, I was admitting I was wrong on the post you're responding to but sinse you continued, but that was the other problem with the David Carr love affair from Bob, he never even had a backup plan. they went out of their way not to let a vet compete for that job

 

sorry; misread it, i guess.

i have a hard time pinning that on mcnair. remember, they drafted a qb in the third round the year after taking carr.

its pretty obvious mcnair liked the guy; i just don't see how it manifested itself in a way that hurt the team. if we one day learn mcnair was overriding attempts to sign a capable back-up, or something of that nature... well, we can add it to one of the million things they did wrong with david carr. but i don't sense mcnair was *that* actively involved.

 

John McClain reported on last Friday that Slaton had already lost that extra weight he picked up during the offseason.

 

i don't follow football but have skimmed through some of the threads the past 2 weeks.

so i'm confused - do we suck or are we good? and what should i be angry about?

thanks in advance.

 

I agree, especially here a lot of flip flop fans.

I see a lot of games on the schedule that could end up being L's.

AZ
Indy (x2)
SF
SEA
MIA
Buffalo

and others. It'll be an up and down season for them IMO.

 

Both

You can pretty much use the standard template. Defense, Secondary, Oline and Quarterback.

 

I am with you on this one - Kubiak basically flushed away a year by sticking with Carr. In fact, this is the prime reason I'm still not sold on Kubiak. That was a horrible decision on his part that I feel was made on the basis of his ego (I'm a QB coaching genius) more than anything else. Anyone with a brain stem could see that Carr had a big fork stuck in him and was done. While he once may well have been a franchise QB, those days were long gone. In the end, they ended up with nothing.

 

what did he flush away exactly? what progress was stalled in 2006? it's not like they had schaub stashed away on the bench in favor of carr.

for all your "i want a fire and brimstone coach" rhetoric, you're telling me you would have preferred, "look, i'm a good coach but i'm not THAT good"? that's the kind of fiery leadership you want in your coach? you want passive, unsure, tentative, no ego...?

carr had had one bad year - and it wasn't even *that* bad; it's not like he was the worst QB in football; he posted a 77 QB rating in 2005. he wasn't even five years removed from starting an expansion franchise. i know he became a lightening rod, etc., but i think the move then was more than defensible.

they were going to end up with nothing, regardless. hell, you could argue keeping carr is the reason mario williams is here. i think most of us (frankly, all of us) would take a year of trying to resurrect a 26-year old QB who had shown promise and mario williams over vince young or matt leinart.

but i firmly disagree on carr; i think its revisionist history. if you're a reputed offensive wunderkind a) i want you to believe you can turn *anyone* into a stud; b) there was no film evidence to suggest carr was mentally taxed - that was his issue. whether he was checked out from the beginning or checked out after the 4,821st hit capers and company exposed him to, he was kaput by the time kubiak got him to camp. by then, it was too late. it was never, imo, a physical issue.

but, in the end, it was not a costly, stupid move, except maybe from a PR standpoint - but you can't run a football team from the PR department.