Sure, if he decides out of the goodness of his heart to rip up the contract then it won't hurt them too bad, but the huge amount of guaranteed money that he has ensures that there is no way they can cut him till 2018 at the absolute soonest meaning that there is no incentive for him to take a pay cut. He will cost them 28 million in 2016 and 31 million in 2017 and there is nothing they can do about it even if he keeps playing like crap.
Extension? LOL wouldn't that be prolonging the problem of being stuck with a bad QB? Also, I don't see him taking a pay cut since they wouldn't have any leverage whatsoever. They are stuck with him for a very long time no matter what unless they want to have 7 figures worth of dead money every year from only one player.
Two AFC championship games and a superbowl victory anyone? Think I would've been fine with that if I was a Texans fan. Flacco is a great postseason QB, he's hella clutch. So yeah, extension. Being stuck to Flacco is a win. Did the Patriots have leverage when Brady took a paycut? Roethlisberger? Whatever man. You don't just cut franchise QB's. Just wait and see. After year number three, it will be restructured. You should read this: http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/...206-million-contract-20130305,0,1319614.story or this http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/A-comprehensive-look-at-Joe-Flaccos-contract.html You're welcome.
LOL, if you judge Joe Flacco solely on what his team has done and ignore his actual performance (or if you only pay attention to his 2 or 3 good games during his one good postseason) then I could see how you would have that flawed idea of what kind of QB he is. It's okay, people said the same sort of things about Mark Sanchez once upon a time, you'll figure it out. Well the combined performances of Schaub and Keenum last year was actually superior to the performance of Joe Flacco....of course let's ignore that and only pay attention to how many games their teams won. As we all know you can be a terrible player, but if your team is winning that somehow means that you are a great player.
First of all, that's not true. Secondly, if they say that, they should be fired. Flacco is nothing more than average and sometimes he's not even that. He had 2 really good games in the postseason and the rest of his career has been weak. Schaub having an average year is better than the best year Flacco has ever or will ever have.
No more comebacks at Joe's contract after reading that? Educated. That's good. I have no problem agreeing to disagree about Flaccos ability as a QB. I'll just rewind Super Bowl XLVII and feel good about him, and I'll leave it at that.
His contract is a joke, I though we all realized that....really no need to go on about it. As to him as a player, make one argument for him that isn't a "just winz" argument, one that doesn't focus on what his team did, or one that is based on a small sample size (a 2 or 3 game hot streak)......it's okay, I'll wait.
I can't wait to hear about that one year where he threw for over 4000 yards or that one year where he was in the top 10 in yards per game or that one year where he did anything to make anyone believe that he was a special QB and not just a guy on a team that was good.
Excellent argument after looking at those articles my friend. "But uh, eh, his contract is still a joke. Everybody knows it! Don't want to say anything more about it now". Well, you need a good team to get wins, doesn't matter how good you are as a single player, your team needs to perform. And Flacco has been in a fortunate position, being on good team his whole career. But that doesn't dispute that he and the Ravens were a from going to the superbowl in 2012, or overtime due to a missed FG in that same AFC championship game. He outplayed Brady that year. Got to the playoffs each year until this year. Beat Luck, Manning, Brady and the 9ers D last year. And this year, after the superbowl winning team was raped during the offseason. The running game sucked ass, the O-line sucked, and Flacco lost his two best targets in Bolding and Pitta(for most of the season). He finally missed it, but still got close. Baltimore has been a run the ball first kind of team, and the last couple of years very balanced attack. Investing a lot of high draft picks on defenders. If you are looking for numbers, Flacco and the Ravens offense is not your cup of tea. Go to Stafford and the Lions for that. But Flacco knows how to put his team in a position to win. And obviously has the ability to go all the way. That's a franchise QB imo.
Exactly which is why team accomplishment is irrelevant when in a discussion about an individual player, I'm glad that you understand that and hope you won't just list a bunch of team accomplishments as if it was something that an individual player "did" No it doesn't dispute it, what it does is makes it irrelevant. Brady did throw 2 interceptions, but he was going against a MUCH better defense than Flacco was and he still managed to toss for over 300 yards but fair enough point, he had a better day against one of the worst defenses in the NFL than Brady did against a good defense full of HOFers. Did "he" do that, or did the team do that? I thought we agreed that team accomplishment was irrelevant in this discussion? Oh no, you started out so well and now you're just listing what his team did....I had high hopes for you. No "he" didn't. I don't think you really grasp the difference between individual accomplishment and team accomplishment. And if I'm looking for a good QB, Flacco isn't my cup of tea. Agreed, Stafford is a MUCH better QB than Flacco could ever hope to be, it's just unfortunate that the Lions aren't a very good team. And boom goes the "just winz" argument. Well your opinion is that an average QB that had their first several seasons on a good team is a "franchise QB" and I think the QB actually has to be a good player. We just value two different things. I value performance, you value coincidence.
No, you value passing yards. I value the tape. QB, system, talent on offense all factor in when it comes to yards. When you are in a pass first system with the potentially greatest WR ever, you get yards. I think Stafford is a franchise QB too. But so is Flacco. And I would take Flacco over Stafford everyday of the weak. Because of Staffords at times awkward throwing motion, mental lapses and he is turnover prone, I would rather have Flacco. Who I think is a player that have a higher football IQ. But I still think Stafford a franchise QB that has the potential to take his team all the way. I've seen Flacco from day one, seen him make all the throws, play conservative, play effective in the no huddle, seen him make short throws and long bombs and put his team on his back and WIN. Win it all.You saw that Flacco put that 2012 team with an aging D on his back and go all the way. It was still a team. But Flacco was the catalyst. Franchise QB. Your whole argument is based on yards. That isn't what seperates QB's. It's much more complicated than that. Too many variables. Flacco has his ups and downs. No doubt about that. But he's still a franchise QB, if you fail to see that. You are just a poor evaluator of talent. And yeah, after first going hard on Joe's contract you conveniently stayed out of that argument again.
Again, it's settled that it's a horrible deal. The Ravens are trapped with a mediocre QB making WAY too much money till after the 2017 season at the soonest.
Do your articles show how they plan on forcing him to take a pay cut in order to avoid the 28,550,000 cap hit in 2016 or the 31,150,000 cap hit in 2017? Does it show what they plan on doing with a mediocre at best QB that they are stuck with till at least 2018? I understand that he's only costing them 14.8 mil this year and only 14.5 mil next year which is still a lot more than he's worth, but if they were able to get rid of him after that it would be alright but they are stuck with him for 4 more seasons which has to be awful.
