Big difference...losing tiebreakers means the games the Texans really needed to win, they did not. Making the playoffs would mean that the Texans did win those important games and got the team where it needed to be. To be honest...he goes 9-7 i'd say keep him and give him one last shot, the team would have improved record wise, came through down the stretch and played meaningfull football in December even if it was with a little help.
My view of Kubiak has to do with how the team performs in the more important games. They're 1-5 vs. their own division.
So in other words, you value wins in conference/division more than others (which is understandable)... but to the point where you're willing to *fire* the Texans first (hypothetical) winning coach ever over it? So lets say the Texans dominate the division, but don't make the playoffs vs. suck in the division and make the playoffs.... how do you feel about Kubiak at the end result of either of those scenarios?
My only quibble: I think it's go Pittsburgh. There's no scenario I can find, if the Texans win out, in which the Steelers would beat them in a tiebreaker. So we need the Steelers to get all the momentum they can get heading into their game with Baltimore next week.
Kubes will be 3-1 vs the NFC after Sunday and 4-6 vs the AFC but win out and the Conference record will be 6-6..not good/not bad IMO but like I said the dude wins out and he should stay. Kubes overall record would still be under 500 all time so he wouldn't be a winning head coach in my book thus firing him would be ok if it happened. If they dominate the division they would be around 5-1 and lets say 10-6 makes you a playoff team, it means 5-5 vs the rest of the league so YES...dominate the division and play AVG football against anyone else and i'd take it. I can't see a scenrio where you dominate the division and not play ok vs everyone else.
I can. Do the Seahawks of the past or current Cardinals ring a bell? They owned the NFC West... the rest of the league? Not so much. Just as well as I can see a scenario where you suck in the division and play ok vs everyone else... If your division is tough, that could easily happen. Or if you have matchup problems. Etc.
I thought about the Cards and Hawks from the last few years but I would love to know how often that happens outside of the NFC West. I mean going 2-4 or 1-5 in your division puts you so far behind the eight ball but I guess its possible so your correct. I will say if you're going to suck inside your division I really hope you cleanup inside your conference because it will create tiebreaker hell otherwise. Winning inside your division would probably give you a huge edge to taking the division so conference record may not be as important but still key for home field in the playoffs.
I ordered a bottle last night on a pick-up order, but I didn't leave a tip. I don't believe in tipping on pick-up orders. What about you? Hell, I'll take a 3-3 this year. If that had been the case, we would have a real chance of going 11-5. And we wouldn't be talking about making the playoffs, we'd be talking about who we're going to play. But....that's water under the bridge. I was really pulling for the Colts last night. I still don't think we have much of a chance, but make no mistake.....I will be beside myself with happiness if for some reason we slip in.
Too me it doesn't matter if we make the playoffs. For me it matters that we still have a meaningfull games and we win. If we don't make the playoffs by the time the dust settles on Jan 3, thats ok b/c we thought we might make the playoffs and we won. Since Bal v Oak, Ten v Sea and Den v K.C. on Jan 3 is at 3 pm we have a better chance of being still in the playoff hunt when the game against NE starts. Even during the last game Pitt v Miami and Cincy v NYJ should be close so even during the game we could still think we have a chance. The truth of the matter is that by noon Jan 3 for us to still be alive is what matters and how we respond. WE are not good enough team to make a dent in the playoffs this year so getting to the playoffs shouldn't be important. LEARNING HOW TO WIN MEANINGFUL GAMES IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT.
I'm guessing you might be only one of a few. There are so many bitter, defeatist, haters out there... seems like they will never give the Texans credit if they got in. They'd call it luck. They'd say they back doored it. Etc. But when it comes down to it, these people who hollered and screamed about not winning "important" games would just have egg all over their faces and I doubt many of them would swallow their pride and admit they were wrong. (because, as it would turn out, every game was important)
Of course but not making the playoffs is okay too as long as we go 9-7 while thinking we COULD make the playoffs
Don't Texan fans have a right to be defeatist? Look, I understand and I appreciate you being so positive. You’ve read enough of my posts here to know that I’ve been right there with you fighting off all the hillboy’s of the Texans forum. But like I said in another thread, I changed my tune after that titans loss a few weeks ago. That game was just a watershed moment for me as a fan. Probably the most devastating loss I’ve ever experienced as a Texan fan. And you know that's saying something! If we make the playoffs, I’ll be right back on that bandwagon. But let’s be honest….the next TRULY meaningful game this team wins will be the first since 19-10. Yes, we may have had some big wins in our history, but if they were really that big, why can’t I remember them?
Yup, here we are 8 years later and that is still the biggest win. Dallas comes to town next year and if we beat them, we will say biggest win in Texans history! Need to lobby the NFL to allow a for regional rivalry game each year. Dallas/Houston, Jets/Giants, etc., especially if they expand the regular season to 18 games.
