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Texans Offensive Line

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Joe Joe, Jan 23, 2002.

  1. WoodlandsBoy

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    Boselli will be taken as LT.

    Roaf will not be taken because of his knee injury and not rehabbing properly due to personal problems.

    There is suppose to be a OG on the list that is very good but also cheap. We will probably take him also.

    Maybe we can trade down and get a RT Mike Williams from UT.

    Finally get RB Ricky Watters as a FA and man we will have a great running game. Keep the D off the field and run run run.
     
  2. Nomar

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    Take Boselli, Draft McKinnie. Sign Kreutz in Free Agency, and get 2 gaurds with our 2 2nd rounders. Perhaps Metcalf and Fonoti. That would be the best start to our franchise, a solid o=line.

    McKinnie/Metcalf/Kreutz/Fonoti/Boselli. Whoa. Dominant.

    With the rest of our picks we could pick up defense.

    Next year, we nab a franchise QB and more defense.
    Year after, franchise RB and more defense.
    Year after, franchise WR and more defense.
     
  3. kidrock8

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    Matthews??? Stepnoski???

    Those of you who think those 2 players are draft-worthy, considering their salary, age, and lack of production lately, are either living in the early 90's, or you are Stevie Wonder.

    Matthews will probably retire, or get cut by the Titans. He is nowhere near worth the 5.4 mill or whatever he costs. I like the guy, but the Texans are a football team, not a retirement home.

    Roaf is not worth the risk. The Texans are taking a risk on Boselli as is, and it would not be wise to draft him. Moreover, Roaf is like 31 or so.

    I would like the Texans to draft McKinnie, and have him and Boselli as bookends.

    I wouldn't be too mad, if the Texans traded down, and got extra picks, and then drafted Mike Williams, somewhere around #10.
     
  4. WoodlandsBoy

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    The Texans are pumping up David Carr so they can trade down and let chumps like Buffalo or Detriot give up their 1st round pick, 2nd round pick and a good player to get David Carr. I would trade down and draft Graham of Colorodo as TE in the 2nd round and Mike Williams of UT with the traded down pick.

    With Boselli, Williams and Graham we would have one bad ass running game. I hope the Texans don't try and tank-it the first year. They can be pretty good.
     
  5. Hey Now!

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    at this point, i don't think there's any chance houston will draft mckinnie. they'll nab boselli and ryan young in the expansion draft; and if not young (the jets also left a young, cheap CB unprotected), tarik glenn [25], flozell adams [26] and jason fabini [27] could all all be free agents this spring. plus, hicks, who they signed last month, was a third round pick just two or three years ago. there's really no need to take mckinnie -- they'll have an abundance of tackle talent to choose from.

    we interviewed a scout who told us a texan acout told him mckinnie would be houston's choice if they didn't grab a LT in the expansion draft, but it looks like they're going to grab a few, so... it's carr.
     
  6. DAROckets

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    Where do you guys get the salary #s from ?
    Also where can I find a list of free agents ?

    I just looked over the exp. list for the first time and was really suprised at some of the talent.

    I think if we do this thing right we can have a competitive team,right off.

    I think there are also some decent wr's in the FA market.Marty Booker is a guy I'd try to grab,also Willie Jackson and Az-Zahir are FA,I think ?
     
  7. kidrock8

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    Say it ain't so!!!

    :mad:

    McKinnie is the best player in this draft, hands down. He will be better than Boselli down the road.

    Also, the Texans should wait until next year to get Byron Leftwich, if a QB is a must-draft.

    None of the QB's deserve to be picked in the top half of the draft.
     
  8. Hey Now!

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    leftwich is still very, very raw and there's no guarantee you'll even have a shot at him next year. you can't draft with an eye on 2003 -- you take the best players available this year.

    top half of the draft? carr is a top 10 prospect, there's no question about it. he solidified that standing in mobile last week. harrington's hurt, but he's easily a top 50 prospect at the very least.

    kittner, davey, et al, are reaches anywhere before the fourth round, imo.

    DAROckets, try http://theredzone.org/02freeagents/
     
  9. gr8-1

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    It doesn't really matter Houston picks first, right? Well, unless they want a couple of players from a certain team.

    Ric may disagree, but I think Williams may be gone by #10.

    Nomar, we're gonna draft Carr this year, if we draft our "franchise" qb NEXT year, you can pretty much assume they've given up on Carr. Let's hope that isn't the case.
     
  10. kidrock8

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    Ric-I meant top half of the 1st round...

    He did impress me the few times I saw him, but he seems to take a ton of vicious hits. I don't know how durable he will be in the NFL.
     
  11. Hey Now!

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    in 2003? no. well, they could have the first pick, but it'll be based on record.

    mike williams? he's certainly a top 10, 15 talent.

    if you're implying he's not very mobile, i understand that's a bit of a concern, tho he ran a 4.7/40 in mobile, so he's not slow.

    but the thing you read about carr in virtually every scouting report is that he's built like a LB. over and over. in mobile, he tipped the scales at 230; pretty thick for a 6'3" guy. it's why some scouts have tossed around comparisons to favre.
     
  12. kidrock8

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    ric-I guess Favre is a good comparison to Carr.

    You're right he is fast, in terms of straightaway speed. But he doesn't have the lateral quickness to avoid the rush well. Meaning that he can really only avoid the rush when he sees it coming early.

    He is a good passer, but I noticed that many times, his WR's made spectacular plays for him, thus padding his stats.

    The amount of hits he took in college makes me wonder if he will be able to last.

    I'm not questioning his toughness, but after a while, you hit a wall.
     
  13. gr8-1

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    Ric, I meant in the expansion draft. Does it matter if they take Sharper or Boselli first?
     
  14. Nomar

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    Im tired of the Carr hype. I dont think he will amount to much. Im much more impressed with the QB crop to come out in the next 2 years. Lets build our Oline first.
     
  15. Francis3

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    I agree, I would go ahead and draft the best player and that is Mckinnie. We can get a good qb in the second or third.
     
  16. Joe Joe

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    Seeing the expansion draft results, where would you rank a bosselli, young, McKinney, Cambell depending if they can get someone decent to be an interior lineman?
     
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    i'd rank it great...for an expansion franchise!! this is more than they could ever have possibly dreamed of.
     
  18. Ottomaton

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    The Texans don't think so. Casserly has been dissing McKinnie's skills.

    Also, I finally saw just a little bit of film on Carr, and I have to say that from what I saw, he has a Marino-like quick release. I was really impressed with the 5 or so minutes I saw. Add to the fact that he's a really grounded, good person, and I think I'd buy into drafting him first.

    The guy looks like Jim Kelly standing in the pocket/moving around (and supposedly has the same type of 'intangables') and he releases the ball nearly as fast as Marino. Just the 5 or so minutes I saw him and I saw alot of stuff that I've never seen from Harrington, or about 75% of the quarterbacks who start on Sundays.

    Also, where would we play McKinney now that we have both a starting left and a starting right tackle? The McKinney obsession around here is beginning to creep me out a bit...
     
  19. kidrock8

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    For one thing, I didn't plan on the Texans to be able to draft 2 stud OT's.

    Also, with that in mind, it wouldn't be too crazy to put McKinnie at OG, like AZ did with Leonard Davis.

    McKinnie has the footwork to be a great OG, but he projects better because of his size at OT.
     
  20. Ottomaton

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    Unless you're Arizona, you don't waste a top 5 pick in the draft in a guard.
     

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