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Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Rockets34Legend, Feb 15, 2004.

  1. RocketFan007

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    I think there's a good chance Hilton will still be there when we pick in the third round. And I disagree about it being a crappy year for OLB, I think there are alot of guys that could go in the 2nd-4th who would be good fits as a rush backer. Hilton, Nathanial Adibi, Travis Laboy, Shaun Phillips, and Bobby McCray would all be good fits.

    On a different note, here's an intersting quote from Casserly regarding DTs:

    "There's good depth in the defensive line, especially at tackle,'' Houston Texans General Manager Charley Casserly said late last week. "There are good players in every round. Last year, there were maybe more first-rounders, but this year there are more good players that you can get in the second and third rounds.''

    Could be smoke, but I think the Texans are going to take a playmaker in the first round then get D-line help later on.
     
  2. Alimoe84

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    If we draft hall I don't think We'd need Jones. Coleman led the team with 7 INTS last season at CB. He'd do some damage at safety. The only safety I'd want on day one is the other Sean. :) If we were going to get a safety though, and Jones was gone, I'd look at Brandon Everage out of oklahoma. The 2nd round pick should be used on a LB or D Lineman.
     
  3. RunninRaven

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    It was my understanding that the issue with Gamble wasn't speed or any physical measurement, but rather just his skill at playing the CB position. I believe he has what is believed to be the perfect build to be a great CB, but he never really played the position much in college (I think one year). I may be getting him confused with someone else. In essence, it sounds like he would be something of a project pick.
     
  4. Ottomaton

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    From a Steelers fan website:

    From another fan website:

    Your description above was spot on for the consensus description of Gamble by amateur draft gurus before the OSU pro day, but he ran the poor time and pretty much dropped from #1 overall CB to #3 on the aforementioned amateur guru sites (not that that really means anything...)
     
  5. Ottomaton

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    I accede to your wisdom. I haven't even seen most of these guys play, I'm just going on what I read.

    Your comments re: Hilton are kind of the reason I made it my freaky feeling pick. He may very well be there when the Texans pick in the third -- just as Chester Pitts may have been there in the third that year. Based on the mock drafts on the 'net, I do think there's an outside chance he may not be there (I'd estimate aprox. 20% of the mock drafts I've seen have him going at the end of the second), and that would cause Caserly to reach a bit. I think this might occur because Hilton's 40 time is significantly better than the rest of th pack. (If 1/10th of a second can be considered significant). IIRC, the main reason that they reached a bit for Peak last year was because of the exceptional speed for his size & strength, & I saw the same attributes in Hilton. Anyway, it's just my freak hunch.

    Anyway, both of the Texan's drafts have involved taking players above where the consensus had them going because the Texan's liked their raw tools. (See Seth Wand, Chester Pitts, and perhaps Antwan Peek). I'm sure that at some point they're going to manage to tick off all of the people who consider player rankings to be unanimous and set in stone again.

    Also -- another guy who fits the DE to OLB mold that you didn't mention would be Jason Babin.
     
  6. Ottomaton

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    I think it'd be nice to be able to get an upgrade at nickle back so we could bump Kenny Wright to dime -- I think both the D line and DB rotation are could stand to get some additional help to address situational substitution.
     
  7. RocketFan007

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    Casserly just said on 610 that he felt that we had a 50/50 chance of moving up in the draft. I just hope we don't give up #40, there's going to be alot of good talent available there.
     
  8. mateo

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    Gamble = gamble.
     
  9. xiki

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    I have to trust CC's opinion. Supposedly there are 8 impact players in the draft, Texans draft #10. Math implies a move up, or a move down.
     
  10. moonnumack

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    Man, I can really envision us moving up to #5 or #6 in exchange for #10 and a 3rd. If teams are demanding a 2nd, maybe we can offer up Tony Hollings (~2nd rounder) instead. I can also see us taking an impact WR in Round 2 that ended up getting pushed out of the 1st round. After going defense in Round 1, it'd be great to snag someone like Woods, Clayton, or Evans.
     
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    That's deep.
     
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    Bring on Tommie Harris, he is Bruce Smith reincarnate.
     
  13. xiki

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    If he were a NG, he would he the fit for the line. Or can Walker move there?
     
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    http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/7275844

    6. Houston Texas (trade with Detroit) -- Miami S Sean Taylor. Houston would take Sean Taylor if they moved up. Detroit would choose between Taylor and Roy Williams if he is passed over by the Raiders. Williams would probably win out. Detroit wants to move out of the slot.
     
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    and true...I never was impressed with him. I think he was just hyped up because he went both ways sometimes.

    Does anyone know if they'll have a show where they'll actually show highlights of the prospects or where I could download some. I'm sick of BS scouting reports.
     
  16. Lil Francis

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    What if the Skins take Taylor at #5? If that happens I think Casserly would take either Winslow or R. Williams.
     
  17. Rocketman95

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    They wouldn't make the trade unless they knew for sure he'd be there.
     
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    i'm going to be on television overload after this weekend.
    first the draft and then the rockets game on sunday.

    this year everything seems to be up in the air. with all the picks (not just ours). then again, i haven't been following as close as last year. last year, though, it seemed pretty clear what the first few picks would be. guess that makes for better drama.

    i'd be happy to trade up or down. i'm with those who say that the 10-spot is not the best place to be. but if we stay there, hopefully we can get hall or udeze. i don't see anyone better than those two falling to us at 10...
     
  19. Rockets34Legend

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    Here's the great news on picking Dunta Robinson:

    http://www.houstontexans.com

    Robinson a perfect '10'

    The Texans arrived Saturday at Reliant Stadium looking for a quick, aggressive cover corner.

    A few hours later, head coach Dom Capers had cornerback Dunta Robinson on the phone. That call could be the start of a very productive relationship.

    The Texans selected the University of South Carolina product with their first-round pick, the 10th overall selection. It marked the first time in the club's brief history that it had used a first-round pick (or second-rounder, for that matter) on a defensive player.

    Capers cut his NFL teeth in New Orleans coaching defensive backs so he values the position maybe more than most. And he has always liked what he's seen in Robinson.

    "We're very excited about having Dunta as a member of the Houston Texans," Capers said. "He's got rare speed. And the combination of his speed, his quickness and his change of direction. What stood out in our minds when we watched him play during his college career was, for a 186-pounder he had very good explosiveness in terms of hitting."

    Robinson started two seasons for the Gamecocks, earning first-team All-Southeastern Conference honors in 2003, when he recorded 50 tackles, 12 passes defensed and one interception. In three games, Robinson didn't allow a reception. His teammates voted him their most valuable player.

    And the hitting? Well, that's a skill Robinson developed during his first two seasons in Columbia, when he played strong safety.

    "I think that benefited him as he moved out to the corner position," Capers said. "We had him targeted as a guy that could really help us upgrade our defense."

    Robinson agrees and he's ready to work.

    “I’m glad the coaches have confidence in me," he said. "I’m very confident in my ability. I think I can really help this team. I know they have some great guys on this team.

    "I’m just happy to be a part of this, in the middle of rebuilding. Hopefully, I can come out and make the best of it."

    While you can't quite pencil in Robinson as a starter just yet, Capers is already tinkering with ways to use his first-round pick.

    "I think he has that type of talent in a couple of areas," Capers said. "He can be a three-down player. He has the possibility, because of his hitting ability, to move inside of third down. He has some blitzing ability. Dunta brings a lot of versatility and you can use him in many different ways."

    As we've discussed leading up to the draft, selecting Robinson means Marcus Coleman will probably switch to free safety. Coleman, an eight-year veteran, has started 31 games at right corner for Houston.

    "I spoke to Marcus a couple of weeks ago," Capers said. "I told him that depending on what happens in this draft, there's a possibility that we'll ask you to move to free safety. His response to me was he was going to do what's best for the football team.

    "I'll say this about Marcus -- Marcus is a good football player. He's one of the few guys that could move inside to the safety position. He's got very good balls skills and he's got size."

    Coleman led the team with seven interceptions last season. And he played safety during in college days at Texas Tech.

    "I think the experience he's gained (at corner) will help him be a very good ball reactor," Capers said

    There were phone calls to Houston's draft room before and during the Texans' turn on the clock. But the Texans quickly turned to Robinson, sending the pick in with plenty of time remaining.

    "Early this morning we got some calls inquiring about us moving up, but people wanted something we were not interested in paying," general manager Charley Casserly said. "We did get some calls about moving back but we weren't comfortable moving back and getting any of the players we had rated at that point in time.

    "We looked at all the draft projections and it looked like Dunta Robinson could be there when we picked. When we got to the pick, Dunta was the highest-rated player on the board and it was an easy choice to make at that time."

    Thanks to the first two trades of the day, the first between the Chargers and the Giants and the second between the Lions and the Browns, the price to move escalated.

    "If you look at the two trades that were made, clearly there was a high price to trade," Casserly said. "A No. 2 to move one spot and a future No. 1 to move four spots. Clearly people had put a high premium on moving."

    Plus, the Texans had their cover corner all along. Sure, every team says that on draft day. But it's hard to argue against the marriage between Robinson and the Texans.

    "We felt Robinson was a natural fit for the franchise right now," Casserly said.
     
  20. Dream34

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    Texans. Titan fans thank you.

    From what I just heard from Chris Mortenson. Texans traded their 2nd, 3rd and 5th round choice to Titans (although this 5th round pick I think may just be flipping positions). Not sure on the details of the 5th rounder.

    That is a great move for the Titans. I never thought I would be thanking a divisional foe.

    Texans must have really wanted Jason Babin DE from Western Michigan.

    :D
     

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