19-21 in Big XII under Franchione is what I was referring to. I wasn't a math major either (and had the disadvantage of getting my undergrad education at UT), but as far as I can tell, that's under .500. I also thought Fran was going to be a great hire for them, I was worried at the time. The fact that my first instinct is not to be worried now... kind of worries me, if that makes any sense. And can't argue with the recent (post Fran) success. Although we'll see how the new b-ball coach works out. I do think Football is a whole other beast though, program-wise, so we'll see. Good luck with Sherman though.