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Texans GM Rick Smith taking extended family medical leave

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Remix, Dec 31, 2017.

  1. Nimo

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    The reason we bring it up is because that is what the team has to consider before making the decision. They have to play what if and look at best/worst case scenario. They didn't have the benefit of hindsight like we now do.
     
  2. Nimo

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    I disagree. Paying 14 mil for a player who turns out to be garbage. That would be bad. It's like Chandler Parsons all over again. If Parsons actually played as good as the contract he earned.

    I think the mistakes they made were underestimating the impact of no Bouye and overestimating Kevin Johnson. If the knew what we all know now, they would have kept him by any means necessary.
     
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    And no one would make that trade
     
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    Brown's deal was like a two year franchise tag. They could have cut him after two years if they wanted to. And maybe Brock would have been the backup here this past year if there weren't clashes with the head coach
     
  5. Hey Now!

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    No; paying a player $14MM a year for five years is bad. Paying that player $14MM for one year and then being free and clear of any future obligations - while not ideal - is considerably not as bad and actually rather smart (because, again, the alternative is significantly worse).

    When did the Rockets franchise Chandler Parsons? I'm beginning to sincerely think you don't know how the franchise tag works?.......

    And you don't think confirming that information was worth a one-time fee of $14MM?
     
  6. Hey Now!

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    Then Bouye could either hold out, not cash-in $14MM (after making, what? $15,000 in '16?) and do it all over again next year.... or he'd play for the 1-year/$14MM franchise number and all parties would reconvene at season's end.

    The Texans held all the leverage..... until they stupidly decided not to tag him.
     
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  7. Nimo

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    We are talking bad vs worse here. Paying a guy who has had just one good season is risky. The impact is not as much as a long term deal but it still has impacts the cap for that one season. It is even more important if you think you have a short window for your key guys. I think the thought also was that they liked Kevin Johnson and Jonathan Joseph better. So you're paying $14 million for your 3rd corner. Even for just one year, that's a lot.

    The similarity with Parsons has nothing to do with the franchise tag. The similarity is that you found a guy for cheap who has outplayed his contract and draft position (or udfa) and some other team is trying to pay a bunch of money for said player. You wonder if the player is going to regress to being average and you think you got someone else in house that could provide the same production. I know it is corny but you want to find the AJ Bouyes and not overpay for him. It didn't work out for the Texans this time.
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    Franchising him would have been throwing a big bag of cash at him, it wouldn't have been long term, but it would have eaten up the rest of the cap. Given the state of the pass rush and the rest of the secondary, we'd likely have people criticizing the decision right now as Bouye likely wouldn't have been one of the top DB's in the league and the secondary would have still been awful. We'd probably have heard talk about how they should have spent that money on the O line or something.
     
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    Bob basically pushed him out the door in that interview
     
  10. Nick

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    At the time, plenty felt it was a bad decision. Now in hindsight, also a bad decision. That basically sums up that it was a disaster of a decision.

    This is the same front office that let Glover Quinn go to sign Ed Reed. I presume u forgave them for that as well, because “hindsight”??

    Also the same organization that handed over a kings ransom to a QB without ever even meeting him... but yeah, playing it safe with a CB they saw everyday, and now who just had an amazing year to top last year’s solid year, was the smart forward thinking move.
     
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    Can we prefix the title with [DEMOTED]
     
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  12. Hey Now!

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    That's not true; in May, after free agency closed and they'd signed their draft picks, the Texans had $28MM in cap space.

    And this third cornerback angle is pure bullshit: Bouye was the best defensive back on a very good defense last year. (And he is, again, this year, btw.) Kevin Johnson ended the year on IR, Jonathan Joseph got a year older and Kareem Jackson regressed in 2016. They thought that situation was better than handing Bouye $14MM to see if '16 was a fluke. That's indefensible.

    Letting Bouye walk - when they had a fail safe method for keeping him - was nakedly dumb. And it isn't the first time they let a good player walk who immediately made them regret it, either. It was just the dumbest example.
     
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  13. Hey Now!

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    No; paying a guy *long-term* for one good year is risky; paying him one free and clear year to see if it was a fluke mitigates the risk considerably.

    And they had the cap room to do it. It was nakedly dumb and indefensible.
     
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    They let guys walk who they should know are good (Bouye, Brooks, Ben Jones) and could possibly have offered them more team-friendly contracts and instead pay up for guys they know little about (Osweiler, Jeff Allen, even Lamar Miller isn't as good as expected).

    The better teams build through draft and keep their best free agents as cheaply as possible.
     
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    In a league where we're approaching 80% of the time in nickel/dime... really, really stupid letting DBs go.

    It's like we were trying to get worse in 2017.
     
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    RS was trying to get O'Brien fired.

    RS thought he was untouchable. His plan backfired.
     
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    Gaine would be so stupid considering the candidates we have
     
  19. Mr.Scarface

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    If demotion mean coming back with the E-VP title......
     
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    Based on...?
     

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