TEXANS GM: Mr. Rick Smith

Barber has been horribly as defensive player, he is nothing more than a special teamer. Adibi hardly even plays and seems to be hurt quite often

 

Brady played to win. He even returned to the game after an injury.


And this is some serious ownage, imo..

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LOL!!!!

yeah they contribute..on the ****ing IR.

 

Adibi has been solid. Why don't you do us all a huge favor and start rooting for the girls.

 

LOL. If you think the Chiefs would turn down a trade of Matt Cassel for Sam Bradford, that's all that needs to be said for your objectivity.

LOL, what the hell? I said he was very well known throughout the league. That means to the people who actually break down film and study players for a living. Was he known to people like you? No, but what does that have anything to do with his trade value? Scouts and talent evaluators throughout the league are what decide "value". The fact that you acknowledge "maybe to pro scouts" but still try to act as if YOU know what his value was is hilarious. PRO SCOUTS ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT MATTER, in situations like these. Not casual fans.

Also, I'm not acting like I knew everything about him. I'm glad he worked out, but I certainly didn't know. All I'm saying is that fans like you and me are in no position to determine what a player's "value" is. Proven production is a part of the equation, sure. But there are also other variables like talent, intelligence, leadership, etc. that can be used to project players who haven't "proven" themselves yet. And if you don't believe that, then by that same logic, you should argue that all teams with a No. 1 overall pick swap that pick for a "proven" Cassel, as opposed to an unproven rookie.

 

Adibi and Barber played in 16 and 13 games, respectively, last season. That equates to 29 out of 32 chances to play, or more than 90%. Care to revise that statement?

 

No, because the only time you even hear about them is when they get hurt. They don't contribute. Not to wins. Not enough for you to call them Contributors.

They contribute as much as Bryan Pittman.

 

What has Sam Bradford proven at this point that would make you think he has more value than a guy like Cassel?

It's not all about "proven" - otherwise, top draft picks would be dealt every year for "proven" veterans. There are other factors to the equation - such as talent, leadership, intelligence, etc. Sure, watching college games and scouting is ONE way of seeing those traits and projecting them to the NFL level. But that's not the only way. You can also watch preseason games, practices, training camps, limited regular season activity and also project in the same exact fashion.

The Texans did that, and you know what? They've been exactly right. Schaub has unquestionably been a better player than Cassel. Much like the Rams and Lions saw projectible things in Sam Bradford and Matthew Stafford, the Texans and others throughout the league saw projectible things in Matt Schaub. Again, they were exactly right.

 

Adibi has been a very solid player by most accounts, and I've talked to multiple scouts throughout the league who see him as potentially an above-average starter. That's pretty damn good for a fourth-round draft pick.

Why don't you tell me the role you envision a typical fourth-round pick having, and analyze the aspects of Adibi's game in which he falls short? Be sure and detail the films you have studied, singularly focused on him, or the people you have talked to who have done so.

 

I don't know why this is being argued. They got one of the better QBs in the league. GMs would give their left testicle and first born child to be able to sure up their QB spot with a guy as talented as Schaub.

 

I'll take Bentley over Alibi every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Having the tools and athleticism to be a starter is MILES from actually doing so.

I guess you really love Okoye.

 

That's certainly your right, but people who break down film for hours and hours, focusing exclusively on individuals, disagree with you. That's where you seem not to get it. I'm not saying I know it all, because I don't. I don't think my football analytic skills, whether it be on TV or from the press box, are any better than yours. What I'm saying is that I recognize that there are individuals (scouts) who follow the game and individual players much more closely than we do, and have more knowledge than we could even dream of. I'm willing to defer, at least somewhat, to their analysis. You're not - and somehow, that makes me the "know it all"?

No, I don't. I think he's a bust.

 

Rick Smith has been great...It's too bad we can't go undefeated in preseason but I'd rather there be a showing like this in preseason so it gets fixed. As long as we learn from this for the season then I'm happy.

 

Just a really weird argument going on in this thread.

Schaub is a Pro Bowl quarterback who started 16 games while leading us to the #1 passing offense in the LEAGUE last year. He is NOT the problem with this team. LOL.

 

No one was arguing about Him. Just his value at the time he was traded.

 

Im still interested to see which teams have had better drafts than the Texans since 2007.

Ive posed this questions numerous times with no response.

The Texans are in the top 5 in drafting since 2007.

Rick Smith's grade for drafting is an A-. His grade for free agency is a C+.

His overall grade is a B.

 

But if the Texans projected Schaub to be a great quarterback, it doesnt matter if 30 other NFL teams thought Schaub is a mediocre quarterback.

I, for one, thought 2 draft picks were a lot for Matt at the time. However, it looks like the Texans nailed it with their projection of the guy. And looking back, that was a brilliant move.

 

Oh, I see. That's makes about as much sense as criticizing the Rockets for breaking up their championship core to get Clyde Drexler.